{"conversationCode":"402-004","tapeNumber":402,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-402-004","startDateTime":"1973-01-21T22:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-21T22:02:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jan-1973","startTime":"5:00 PM","endDate":"21-Jan-1973","endTime":"5:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 5:02 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 402-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 402-4\n\nDate: January 21, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:00 pm and 5:02 pm.\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Henry A. Kissinger\n             -Possible call from Haig\n                    -Timing\n\nBull left at 5:02 pm.","filename":["402-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"402-003","nextCode":"402-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":8.2,"text":"Mr. President, did you realize that I missed you today?"},{"start":8.22,"end":8.6,"text":"I'm here about now."},{"start":8.62,"end":9.17,"text":"What can I do for you, sir?"},{"start":9.19,"end":9.79,"text":"Oh, uh, that is not necessary."},{"start":28.9,"end":37.62,"text":"No, they won't have to."},{"start":37.64,"end":38.94,"text":"I'll tell you, you can just tell them that I'm in my office here."},{"start":38.96,"end":39.83,"text":"Call me if you want to talk to me about it."},{"start":39.84,"end":40.47,"text":"But I don't want to ask people."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his upcoming schedule and manage communications with key advisors. The discussion focused primarily on the availability of Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Henry A. Kissinger, specifically regarding the timing of a potential phone call. Nixon directed Bull to inform relevant parties of his location in the office while expressing a desire to avoid unnecessary administrative solicitations.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Alexander M. Haig Jr.","Henry A. Kissinger","White House operations","Administrative coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:18:27.338Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","alexander-m-haig-jr","henry-a-kissinger","white-house-operations","administrative-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":66,"audioFiles":[{"file":"402-004.mp3","bytes":1579267,"durationSec":65.67,"bitrate":192398,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.437Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/402-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/402-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/402/conversation-402-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}