{"conversationCode":"402-008","tapeNumber":402,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-402-008","startDateTime":"1973-01-21T22:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-21T22:43:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jan-1973","startTime":"5:33 PM","endDate":"21-Jan-1973","endTime":"5:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:33 pm and 5:43 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 402-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 402-8\n\nDate: January 21, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:33 pm and 5:43 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\f                                               -13-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 402-17 (cont’d)\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Republican National Committee [RNC] reception\n                    -Remarks by President\n                    -Photographs\n                    -Spiro T. Agnew\n                    -Robert J. Dole\n                          -Anne Armstrong\n                    -Timing\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.","filename":["402-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"402-007","nextCode":"402-009","transcript":[{"start":0.4,"end":20.58,"text":"I don't want to speak there, so it's no problem."},{"start":20.6,"end":23.67,"text":"What I'm saying is that what I said earlier, I know it's incorrect, because I don't know if you haven't seen it, but I can tell you that that's not true."},{"start":23.69,"end":24.65,"text":"It always starts on September 12th of this year."},{"start":24.67,"end":27.27,"text":"I think any of the programs, whether they're all by and large, such as a couple of state shows,"},{"start":27.96,"end":51.84,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":53.19,"end":82.87,"text":"I was saying that I said a lot of nice things about him."},{"start":83.26,"end":91.1,"text":"6-10 is when you want us, sir."},{"start":91.12,"end":91.38,"text":"Uh, yes, sir."},{"start":91.48,"end":92.36,"text":"Where can they be?"},{"start":92.38,"end":92.8,"text":"Hey, Gary."},{"start":92.82,"end":94.31,"text":"If they cover it, I can come up with a radio, okay?"},{"start":94.33,"end":94.67,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed logistical details regarding an upcoming Republican National Committee (RNC) reception. They discussed the President's speaking engagement, including the schedule for photographs and the involvement of key figures such as Spiro T. Agnew, Robert J. Dole, and Anne Armstrong. The discussion focused on finalizing the timing and coordination of these ceremonial duties.","topics":["Richard M. Nixon","Stephen B. Bull","Republican National Committee","Scheduling","Spiro T. Agnew","Political events"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:18:51.625Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-m-nixon","stephen-b-bull","republican-national-committee","scheduling","spiro-t-agnew","political-events"],"audioDurationSec":101,"audioFiles":[{"file":"402-008.mp3","bytes":2431903,"durationSec":101.17,"bitrate":192295,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:34.126Z","transcriptGapSeconds":74,"transcriptGapShare":0.73,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/402-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/402-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/402/conversation-402-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}