Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 404-026 Date: Tuesday, January 23, 1973 at 1:59 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Sanchez, Manolo Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/404-026 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] I wonder if he's going to be publicized anyway. [0:16] I don't know. [0:17] Oh, he's scared along. [0:20] The lawyers pulled it off. [0:23] None of that was . [0:31] He's a cop. [0:36] He's a cop. [0:41] He's got a mental illness. [0:55] He's got a mental illness. [1:07] The Bible says, [1:35] If we think we're going to get all of the poison and keep it alive, saying there's smeariness and this and the rest, I think you can put a good case suit, believe me. [1:48] I follow it all the way. [1:50] I agree. [1:51] And I don't want none of us going to get hit, but you're going to do other things. [1:56] You've got to believe me. [1:58] We're going to need the lower-ranking plan, and we're going to fight through that. [2:02] I don't want to do it. [2:02] I won't do it. [2:03] Well, I don't think so. [2:09] I think it was . [2:12] He said, . [2:13] He said, . [2:15] He said, . [2:18] And he said, . [2:20] Oh, everybody thought as a result that he really did . [2:25] In other words, once you bring them up, you carry them over the way, it moves. [2:33] Okay. [3:07] I'm going to know that you're here at a very interesting day. [3:20] When I was 10 o'clock, I was announced that we have reached the break of dawn for the last time in the world. [3:28] And every time that it was all over demand, and I said, Lord, please, we're going to have this in the world. [3:34] The ceasefire is throughout the world. [3:37] and the laws, and their right to themselves to be engaged in their own future without any outside intervention. [4:02] We've got Perry in the lead after all. [4:03] Now, what it means, of course, to be dealt with is that there must be a savage attack. [4:05] I don't know if anybody else is going to agree with what I've said, but there must be an attack. [4:13] The. [4:42] I also want every labor you can call to come to us and say the present. [5:11] Thank you. [5:46] ... ... ... ... ... ... [6:23] . [6:24] That's what we ought to do. [6:53] . [6:54] I don't want to keep going for a month. [7:01] Frankly, the attack, we may not be able to destroy it because we don't have a press release. [7:12] Blackboard, Herbert Hoover was attacked by that son of a bitch. [7:17] Smart guy to work for us, don't remember. [7:19] Those were the members. [7:22] You remember the job they incurred when they made him the sandwich on the bench and everything else. [7:29] It's irrelevant. [7:30] Why is it? [7:31] We had never done anything to our enemies. [7:37] Never. [7:37] It was effective. [7:37] But this is going to react. [7:39] You must tear their guts out. [7:42] Look, they would settle for a peace that would get peace for America and continue war with 30 million people in the Southeast Asia. [7:51] We have peace. [7:52] We're going to be the hell out. [7:58] All the rest of the military is going to be a shit. [8:26] I agree completely. [8:33] I think maybe this is the time to cool Travis off. [8:39] What do you think? [8:39] Chase? [8:42] Chase? [8:44] Well, Chase is going to run for the line. [8:45] That's right. [8:45] That's right. [8:48] That's right. [8:49] That's right. [8:49] That's right. [8:50] That's right. [8:53] That's right. [8:54] That's right. [8:54] He will be delighted to know he's done everything [9:25] Yeah. [9:53] But you get down and say, we can do everything we want. [9:56] But what they've got to say, Chuck, is the president's policy has been vindicated. [10:01] It has worked. [10:02] And all these factors that are based upon the government, what the hell has it been all about? [10:07] Is it working or not? [10:09] And they must not get away with this line to the effect that they would have, of course, essentially. [10:39] The only way we can embrace it, we have to destroy it. [10:50] We have to use this belief as the first way to get rid of it. [11:00] Because I agree, they, I even got Christ out later than that, so it's not quite the same. [11:04] I don't know what that means, but I guess if you take the world, the credibility of it, anybody can see it. [11:11] I believe it. [11:43] . [11:45] . [11:45] . [11:45] . [11:45] . [12:12] Then after that, [12:44] Thank you. [13:14] There's quite a scally thing. [13:20] If you talk to him, he's kind of like this. [13:25] He's ready to fight. [13:26] He's got skills. [13:28] He's got ability. [13:29] The press is there. [13:30] The journalists come along with him. [13:36] He's an awesome man. [13:36] He's awesome. [13:39] I'm just going to question the narrative of that. [13:40] Why? [13:40] If you trust him completely. [13:49] Thank you. [14:15] . [14:17] . [14:19] . [14:19] . [14:24] . [14:24] . [14:26] . [14:31] . [14:46] . [14:50] . [14:58] . [14:58] . [15:08] . [15:11] . [15:11] . [15:18] Why doesn't anybody stand for him? [15:53] . [16:03] . [16:03] . [16:10] . [16:13] . [16:23] But you've got to be strong. [16:29] I think the real problem is that all of us have been so desperate for the question. [16:42] That's right. [16:43] Yeah. [16:44] Yeah. [16:45] I've been beaten down and destroyed. [16:49] You can do it. [16:50] You can do it. [16:51] You can do it. [16:52] You can do it. [16:52] You can do it. [16:53] I'd like to be the lawyer for the Washington Post. [17:02] So we want to congratulate you. [17:05] And CBS. [17:06] CBS. [17:07] And the Washington Post. [17:10] They're too quiet. [17:12] They're too quiet. [17:13] They're too quiet. [17:16] They're too quiet. [17:17] They're too quiet. [17:17] They're too quiet. [17:19] They're too quiet. [17:20] They're too quiet. [17:20] They're too quiet. [17:30] . [17:30] . [17:34] . [17:34] . [17:36] . [17:36] . [17:37] . [18:00] what you're fighting for. [18:03] It's a long story. [18:08] We didn't make this for you. [18:13] It's a part of the inauguration. [18:15] It's a part of the inauguration. [18:18] It's a long story. [18:19] We've got a long story. [18:21] We're asking what's wrong. [18:22] Where's the current? [18:23] I remember two years ago, I think we were asking to see a reporter from the county. [18:28] Maybe a year and a half ago. [18:30] You're not as good at talking as I'd be at the center of the church. [18:35] As good at talking as I'd be at the center of the church. [19:23] Fairness. [19:24] Fairness. [19:25] Fairness. [19:29] I've got to say, I think John, I think it's great. [19:33] I think John really, I don't find John quite as bad as John. [19:45] He's smarter than John. [19:47] What do you think? [19:48] I don't think it's the first one. [19:50] It's the first one. [19:52] What do you think? [19:55] He was a laborer. [20:39] Yeah. [20:59] Yeah. [21:09] Great. [21:14] Well, that's fine. [21:21] But you would be right to remind that if you're getting five cents, it's good to do the five cents. [21:34] I've never heard the motion to do it. [21:35] No, we won't do it. [21:36] Well, I just . [21:38] . [21:38] . [21:38] . [21:38] . [21:38] . [21:40] Thank you. [22:13] In other words, [22:41] ... ... [23:21] I believe that there's a project now that we can't do any of it. [23:47] There really is more of a challenge. [23:48] There's just pure pressure. [23:48] Mainly, of course, because of this. [23:49] The way I'm doing this is very, I guess, skillfully suggested. [23:53] What happened to the... [24:23] . [24:25] . [24:25] . [24:26] . [24:55] Thank you. [25:17] Don't worry about the support of the mob. [25:21] You know, I mean, you don't have to worry about the fact that you're going to be able to work. [26:00] Thank you. [26:30] Thank you. [27:06] ... ... ... [27:50] Thank you. [28:21] We'll tell them. [28:35] We'll tell them. [28:54] . [28:57] . [28:58] . [28:59] . [29:30] I don't know. [29:32] I don't know. [29:42] I don't know. [30:00] Thank you. [30:39] Yeah. [31:07] ... ... ... ... ... [31:51] Yep, and we'll get a lot of people saved in that particular situation. [32:03] It's a great time. [32:07] It's a great time to do it. [32:11] We'll do it. [32:13] We'll do it. [32:14] Thank you.