{"conversationCode":"405-005","tapeNumber":405,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-405-005","startDateTime":"1973-01-25T13:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-25T13:39:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:38 AM","endDate":"25-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:39 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:38 am to 8:39 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 405-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 405-5\n\nDate: January 25, 1973\nTime: 8:38 am - 8:39 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 36-111]","filename":["405-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"405-004","nextCode":"405-006","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon inquired with Stephen B. Bull about reaching H.R. Haldeman, specifically asking if Bull had been successful in contacting him and confirming a potential meeting time of 9:45 am. The brief exchange focused on coordinating schedules and ensuring communication with Haldeman.","topics":["Haldeman contact","Scheduling","Presidential communication","Meeting arrangements"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:59:09.577Z"},"topicSlugs":["haldeman-contact","scheduling","presidential-communication","meeting-arrangements"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"405-005.mp3","bytes":995551,"durationSec":41.33,"bitrate":192687,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.437Z","transcript":[{"start":0,"end":4,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah. You get a hold of Haldeman?"},{"start":4,"end":23,"speaker":"Bull","text":"[unintelligible]"},{"start":23,"end":27,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"You think at 9:45?"},{"start":27,"end":34,"speaker":"Bull","text":"9:45. Okay. All right sir, 9:45."}],"transcriptCreatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:48:11.740Z","transcriptModel":"google/gemini-3.8-flash","transcriptSource":"audio-llm","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/405-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/405-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/405/conversation-405-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}