Conversation 405-009

TapeTape 405StartThursday, January 25, 1973 at 9:05 AMEndThursday, January 25, 1973 at 9:34 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building

AI Summary

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman coordinated the strategic rollout of the upcoming 1974 budget speech, focusing on press coverage, congressional relations, and the necessary integration with the recent Vietnam settlement. They reviewed cabinet meeting logistics and potential personnel assignments, weighing the roles of various advisors like George Shultz and John Ehrlichman. Stephen B. Bull joined briefly toward the end to finalize logistical arrangements for the President’s travel to Texas to attend the funeral of Lyndon B. Johnson.

1974 Federal BudgetVietnam SettlementCabinet MeetingsCongressional RelationsLyndon B. Johnson FuneralPublic Relations Strategy

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NARA Description

On January 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:05 am to 9:34 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 405-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 405-9

Date: January 25, 1973
Time: 9:05 am – 9:34 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       President's speech on 1974 budget
             -Preparation
             -George P. Shultz
                                    -5-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               (rev. Feb-09)

                                                Conversation No. 405-9 (cont’d)

           -Vietnam settlement
     -John D. Ehrlichman
     -Congressional relations
     -Spiro T. Agnew [?]
     -Roy L. Ash
     -Strategy
     -Congressional relations
     -Details compared to overall concept
           -Programs
           -Taxes
           -Congress
     -Cabinet meeting
           -Ehrlichman
           -Ash
           -Earl L. Butz
           -Rogers C. B. Morton
     -Timing
     -Ehrlichman
     -Ronald L. Ziegler
     -Timing
           -William E. Timmons, Ash
     -President's revisions in drafts
           -Continental Divide
     -Method of press coverage
           -Ehrlichman, Ziegler
     -Relation to Vietnam settlement
           -Congress
     -Ehrlichman's work with John A. Volpe
     -Agnew
     -Strategy
           -Timmons
     -Method of press coverage
           -Radio, television [TV]
     -President's response to draft
     -Cabinet meeting
           -Agnew [?]
           -Volpe

Lyndon B. Johnson’s funeral
     -Claudia A. (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
                                              -6-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        (rev. Feb-09)

                                                         Conversation No. 405-9 (cont’d)

                   -Photographs with President
             -President's role
                   -Military attache, Claudia Johnson
                   -Wreath-laying

       President's speech on 1974 budget
             -Length
                    -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
             -Method of press coverage
                    -Publicity
             -Congressional relations
             -Ehrlichman's view on importance
                    -Vietnam settlement

       1974 budget meeting
            -Shultz's role
            -President's role
            -Taxes

       Cabinet meeting
            -Elliot L. Richardson
            -Peter J. Brennan
                  -Ability
            -Morton
            -Value
            -George W. Romney
            -Frederick B. Dent
            -George H. W. Bush
                  -Inclusion in future meetings
            -Agnew

Stephen B. Bull entered at 9:34 am.

       Lyndon Johnson’s funeral
            -Departure time for President
            -Logistics
                 -Claudia Johnson and family
                 -Weather in Texas

       President's speech on 1974 budget
                                                 -7-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        (rev. Feb-09)

                                                             Conversation No. 405-9 (cont’d)

             -Revisions
                  -Price
             -Length

President, Haldeman, and Bull left at 9:35 am.

Transcript (AI-Generated)

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I'll bring it to 8 for impact.

We'll get at least something out of it.

That's what you were mad about at the end?

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