{"conversationCode":"405-011","tapeNumber":405,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-405-011","startDateTime":"1973-01-25T17:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-25T19:16:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jan-1973","startTime":"12:45 PM","endDate":"25-Jan-1973","endTime":"2:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On January 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:45 pm to 2:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 405-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 405-11\n\nDate: January 25, 1973\nTime: 12:45 pm - 2:16 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Lyndon B. Johnson’s funeral\n\f                                      -8-\n\n           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                     Conversation No. 405-11 (cont’d)\n\n     -President's 1974 budget speech\n           -John D. Ehrlichman\n           -Press coverage\n           -Television [TV]\n           -Preparation\n           -Revisions\n                  -Ehrlichman\n                  -Vietnam settlement\n                  -George P. Shultz\n                  -Compared to December1972 bombing\n                        -Haldeman’s responsibility\n                        -Henry A. Kissinger\n           -Ehrlichman\n           -Shultz\n     -Ehrlichman, Haldeman\n           -Scheduling techniques\n     -Fatigue\n     -Press conference\n     -Ehrlichman\n     -Meeting of a council\n\nExecutive privilege\n     -Recommendation\n     -William P. Rogers\n           -Conversation with President\n     -Ehrlichman\n     -Bryce N. Harlow\n     -Director of the Budget\n           -Congressional relations\n     -Ehrlichman's view\n     -Law\n           -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.\n           -Budget\n           -Directors of National Security Council [NSC], Central Intelligence Agency\n           [CIA], Domestic Council\n           -Cost of Living Council\n     -Ronald L. Ziegler\n     -Unknown man\n           -Work out of White House\n\f                                      -9-\n\n           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                      Conversation No. 405-11 (cont’d)\n\nPresident's schedule\n      -Ehrlichman's and Haldeman's roles\n      -Press conferences\n      -Kissinger, Rogers\n      -Staff meeting\n             -Haldeman and Ziegler\n             -Shultz\n             -Roy L. Ash\n             -Ehrlichman\n             -Executive privilege issue\n      -Meeting\n             -Ehrlichman\n             -Ziegler\n      -Event for end of week\n      -Ehrlichman\n             -Agenda\n\nCabinet\n     -Appointments\n          -Ehrlichman\n\nPresident's schedule\n      -Bipartisan Congressional leaders meeting\n      -Kissinger\n      -Roosevelt Room\n      -Board of directors\n             -National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in\n             Southeast Asia\n      -Swearing-in of Cabinet\n             -Kissinger\n             -Bipartisan Congressional leaders meeting\n             -Press conference\n      -Vietnam settlement\n             -National Day of Prayer\n             -Cease-fire\n             -Press coverage\n             -Possible speech by President\n             -Proclamation\n             -Crowd\n             -Ceremony at air base\n\f                                            -10-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                        Conversation No. 405-11 (cont’d)\n\n                         -Band\n                  -Congressional resolution\n                         -Silent prayer\n                         -President's guests\n            -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope\n            -William T. Cahill\n            -Donald McI.. Kendall [?]\n            -Ehrlichman's and Haldeman's roles\n            -Allocation of time\n            -Cabinet\n            -Congress\n            -President's speech on 1974 budget\n                  -Ehrlichman\n\nHaldeman left at 2:16 pm.","filename":["405-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"405-010","nextCode":"405-012","transcript":[{"start":121.72,"end":149.5,"text":"Let me tell you what I had."},{"start":275.28,"end":278.64,"text":"Harder to let you fall down."},{"start":278.66,"end":279.15,"text":"You need to barely fall."},{"start":410.92,"end":417.08,"text":"I'm willing to have the direction of my feet with that, but I'm afraid of the other side."},{"start":505.32,"end":507.5,"text":"Ja, det var det."},{"start":507.52,"end":507.58,"text":"Ja."},{"start":547.3,"end":550.12,"text":"Det var en fantastisk fisk."},{"start":656.08,"end":658.11,"text":"1 2 3 4 5"},{"start":880.74,"end":885.89,"text":"For example, the guys that work out in the supercar."},{"start":1042.47,"end":1045.26,"text":"Det var en av de største avslutningene."},{"start":1075.32,"end":1102.06,"text":"Whatever you want."},{"start":1102.08,"end":1102.34,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":1102.36,"end":1102.62,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":1102.64,"end":1102.9,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":1102.92,"end":1103.18,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":1103.2,"end":1103.46,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":1103.48,"end":1103.74,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":1125.49,"end":1127.77,"text":"Ok, så det er ganske lovklart."},{"start":1199.07,"end":1201.94,"text":"... ... ... ..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to coordinate upcoming administrative priorities, including the development of the 1974 budget speech and preparations for the Vietnam peace settlement. They discussed strategies for managing executive privilege, congressional relations, and the evolving roles of staff members like John Ehrlichman. Additionally, the pair reviewed the President’s crowded schedule, which encompassed appointments for Cabinet swearing-in ceremonies, memorial events, and press engagement strategies.","topics":["1974 Budget","Vietnam Settlement","Executive Privilege","White House Staffing","Congressional Relations","Presidential Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:26:39.035Z"},"topicSlugs":["1974-budget","vietnam-settlement","executive-privilege","white-house-staffing","congressional-relations","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":1814,"audioFiles":[{"file":"405-011.mp3","bytes":43528336,"durationSec":1813.53,"bitrate":192015,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.439Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:34.639Z","transcriptGapSeconds":55,"transcriptGapShare":0.03,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/405-011.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/405-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/405/conversation-405-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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