{"conversationCode":"406-008","tapeNumber":406,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-406-008","startDateTime":"1973-01-30T18:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-30T18:20:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jan-1973","startTime":"1:18 PM","endDate":"30-Jan-1973","endTime":"1:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:18 pm to 1:20 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 406-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 406-8\n\nDate: January 30, 1973\nTime: 1:18 pm - 1:20 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 36-116]","filename":["406-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"406-007","nextCode":"406-009","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":22.56,"text":"So, Ron, I wondered if you could check to see whether the signs were slipped up or not, or if they were supposed to be modeled."},{"start":22.58,"end":24.46,"text":"The problem we have here is that it's short, and it comes from a very sensitive topic."},{"start":24.48,"end":25.03,"text":"Do you know whether we have"},{"start":53.74,"end":66.93,"text":"Ah, why don't you break it at 3 o'clock for AM release?"},{"start":66.95,"end":69.28,"text":"Really, I really believe you should."},{"start":69.3,"end":70.42,"text":"Screw the Congress."},{"start":70.44,"end":71,"text":"Don't worry about that, Ron."},{"start":71.02,"end":72.28,"text":"I'll worry about the Congress."},{"start":72.3,"end":72.84,"text":"Put it out for AM release."},{"start":72.86,"end":73.51,"text":"Now that's part of the big deal."},{"start":73.53,"end":73.63,"text":"Okay?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to release a sensitive announcement to the press by 3:00 p.m. for the next morning's news cycle. Despite potential political friction, Nixon explicitly instructed Ziegler to disregard congressional concerns regarding the timing. This directive was intended to prioritize the public release strategy as a critical component of a larger administration initiative.","topics":["Press relations","Public communications","Congressional relations","White House strategy","News cycle management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:27:54.508Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-relations","public-communications","congressional-relations","white-house-strategy","news-cycle-management"],"audioDurationSec":81,"audioFiles":[{"file":"406-008.mp3","bytes":1957295,"durationSec":81.41,"bitrate":192331,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/406-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/406-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/406/conversation-406-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}