{"conversationCode":"406-028","tapeNumber":406,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-406-028","startDateTime":"1973-01-30T23:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-30T23:57:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jan-1973","startTime":"6:56 PM","endDate":"30-Jan-1973","endTime":"6:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, Peter J.;","description":"On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:56 pm to 6:57 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 406-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 406-28\n\nDate: January 30, 1973\nTime: 6:56 pm - 6:57 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the Patrick J. Buchanan.\n\n[See Conversation No. 36-122]","filename":["406-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, Peter J."],"prevCode":"406-027","nextCode":"406-029","transcript":[{"start":0.32,"end":23.71,"text":"Get me an estimate of the number of civilians in the times that are destroyed."},{"start":23.73,"end":25.07,"text":"The number of civilians assassinated, killed, et cetera, et cetera."},{"start":25.09,"end":26.7,"text":"What I should add is that there are so many civilians that were delivered to me."},{"start":32.82,"end":40.42,"text":"Okay, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon requested an urgent assessment concerning civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction resulting from recent military operations. He sought specific data on the number of non-combatant deaths and associated collateral damage to inform his ongoing briefings. This brief exchange prioritized the compilation of accurate casualty figures for administrative review.","topics":["Civilian casualties","Military operations","Damage assessment","Vietnam War","White House briefing"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:29:46.807Z"},"topicSlugs":["civilian-casualties","military-operations","damage-assessment","vietnam-war","white-house-briefing"],"audioDurationSec":45,"audioFiles":[{"file":"406-028.mp3","bytes":1092122,"durationSec":45.37,"bitrate":192557,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/406-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/406-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/406/conversation-406-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}