{"conversationCode":"406-051","tapeNumber":406,"conversationNumber":51,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-406-051","startDateTime":"1973-01-31T02:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-31T02:57:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jan-1973","startTime":"9:55 PM","endDate":"30-Jan-1973","endTime":"9:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:55 pm to 9:57 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 406-051 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 406-51\n\nDate: January 30, 1973\nTime: 9:55 pm - 9:57 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 36-139]","filename":["406-051.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"406-050","nextCode":"406-052","transcript":[{"start":3.08,"end":30.32,"text":"I talk to her, and I ask her, and I ask her, and I ask her, and I ask her, and I ask her, and I ask her,"},{"start":43.99,"end":65.97,"text":"This is so senseless, you know."},{"start":65.99,"end":66.97,"text":"They're just buying this car like that, you know."},{"start":66.99,"end":68.08,"text":"Driving this all the time, nice and cool or something."},{"start":68.09,"end":68.82,"text":"This is the great work they've done."},{"start":68.84,"end":69.72,"text":"I saw a big one when I went up to the block."},{"start":69.74,"end":70.52,"text":"The jackass was coming up to the block."},{"start":70.54,"end":71.3,"text":"The spy did have the key in his watch."},{"start":71.32,"end":72.02,"text":"I don't think all of them ever did."},{"start":72.04,"end":72.7,"text":"I don't know what the problem is."},{"start":72.72,"end":73.12,"text":"I don't really know."},{"start":73.76,"end":84.54,"text":"Oh, I didn't know."},{"start":84.56,"end":84.7,"text":"Oh, no."},{"start":84.72,"end":90.77,"text":"It's different."},{"start":90.79,"end":91.51,"text":"It's crazy to get his ass out there."},{"start":91.53,"end":92.33,"text":"The FBI has been in secret service."},{"start":92.36,"end":93.06,"text":"The United States Senator was shot."},{"start":93.08,"end":94.08,"text":"It's an FBI case."},{"start":94.1,"end":94.4,"text":"It's different."},{"start":94.42,"end":94.72,"text":"It's different."},{"start":104.67,"end":130.74,"text":"I want to go right now."},{"start":130.76,"end":131.03,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":131.04,"end":131.31,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":135.08,"end":164.08,"text":"I didn't know it was on."},{"start":169.56,"end":187.1,"text":"Okay."},{"start":190.79,"end":190.89,"text":"Okay."},{"start":200.3,"end":202.13,"text":"What's going on?"},{"start":229.63,"end":255.52,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles W. Colson engage in a brief, disjointed exchange that briefly touches upon investigations involving the FBI and the Secret Service. The conversation lacks a clear agenda, appearing to reference a shooting incident involving a U.S. Senator and expressing frustration over ongoing security or intelligence matters. No formal policy decisions or concrete action items are established during the brief interaction.","topics":["FBI","Secret Service","Law Enforcement","Domestic Security","Investigations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:31:59.757Z"},"topicSlugs":["fbi","secret-service","law-enforcement","domestic-security","investigations"],"audioDurationSec":258,"audioFiles":[{"file":"406-051.mp3","bytes":6185373,"durationSec":257.57,"bitrate":192112,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","transcriptGapSeconds":148,"transcriptGapShare":0.57,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/406-051.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/406-051","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/406/conversation-406-051","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}