{"conversationCode":"406-054","tapeNumber":406,"conversationNumber":54,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-406-054","startDateTime":"1973-01-30T19:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-30T19:53:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jan-1973","startTime":"2:48 PM","endDate":"30-Jan-1973","endTime":"2:53 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:48 pm to 2:53 pm. 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Bull.\n\n       President's schedule\n             -1973 State of the Union message\n                    -Signing\n             -Domestic Council\n                    -Edwin L. Harper\n                    -Robert J. Brown\n                          -Previous meeting with President at Camp David\n                          -Photograph\n                    -Other departures\n             -Cabinet swearing-in\n                    -John A. Scali\n                    -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger\n                    -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]\n                    -Frederic V. Malek\n                    -Roy L. Ash\n                    -Location\n                    -Handshaking\n                    -Photographs\n                    -Warren E. Burger\n                    -Elliot L. Richardson\n             -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman\n                    -Location\n                    -Notes\n\nBull left at 2:53 pm.","filename":["406-054.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"406-053","nextCode":"406-055","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":15.93,"text":"Tomorrow morning, at 10.30, it's going to be a regular meeting."},{"start":15.95,"end":19.94,"text":"I'm going to sign and send a community message to the local office."},{"start":19.96,"end":20.76,"text":"We're going to have a tentative meeting."},{"start":44.31,"end":64.46,"text":"I don't know whether there's any reason to have him."},{"start":64.48,"end":66.14,"text":"At least we have the opportunity to bring his family, photograph, and go over here."},{"start":66.16,"end":66.36,"text":"All right."},{"start":66.38,"end":66.78,"text":"And then we're good."},{"start":66.8,"end":66.92,"text":"Right."},{"start":66.94,"end":68.54,"text":"On the other departures, I think it might be best if we don't have him in there."},{"start":68.56,"end":69.39,"text":"I'm not going to almost have him like me."},{"start":69.41,"end":69.67,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":69.69,"end":70.65,"text":"We're already just sitting for about 10 minutes."},{"start":70.67,"end":71.25,"text":"I don't know what time it is."},{"start":71.27,"end":71.71,"text":"When it's going to be."},{"start":71.73,"end":71.99,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":80.22,"end":91.96,"text":"We're out of here."},{"start":91.98,"end":98.25,"text":"We're out of here."},{"start":98.27,"end":98.63,"text":"We're out of here."},{"start":98.65,"end":108.46,"text":"We're out of here."},{"start":108.48,"end":108.84,"text":"We're out of here."},{"start":122.48,"end":136.76,"text":"Where you're going to run up through."},{"start":136.78,"end":136.96,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":136.98,"end":137.48,"text":"Where you're going to be."},{"start":137.5,"end":137.92,"text":"In the restroom, sir."},{"start":137.94,"end":138.64,"text":"There's no hands shaking now there."},{"start":138.66,"end":138.82,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":138.84,"end":139.25,"text":"That's not expected."},{"start":139.27,"end":139.77,"text":"I'm not going to do that."},{"start":139.79,"end":139.95,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":139.97,"end":141.45,"text":"In fact, this room right here is suggested that you die in secrecy."},{"start":141.47,"end":141.63,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":141.65,"end":142.33,"text":"No, I'm going to walk right out."},{"start":142.35,"end":142.53,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":142.55,"end":142.93,"text":"It's only the game."},{"start":143.62,"end":149.27,"text":"No, no."},{"start":152.51,"end":161.66,"text":"These are all our own people."},{"start":161.68,"end":167.49,"text":"And no pictures now with the families and everything."},{"start":167.51,"end":167.67,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":167.69,"end":169.23,"text":"It just wouldn't work."},{"start":169.25,"end":169.87,"text":"All we have is the swearing in."},{"start":169.89,"end":170.13,"text":"He comes up."},{"start":170.15,"end":170.43,"text":"Chief Justice."},{"start":170.57,"end":170.67,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":170.69,"end":171.35,"text":"Yeah, I'll see him over there."},{"start":171.37,"end":171.67,"text":"I'll come back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull reviewed the logistics for upcoming administrative events, including the signing of the State of the Union message and various Cabinet swearing-in ceremonies. The discussion focused on managing the President's schedule, specifically addressing the appropriate protocols for photographs and interactions with staff and their families. Nixon explicitly directed Bull to streamline the transition events by eliminating unnecessary handshaking and family photo sessions to maintain a professional focus during the proceedings.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Cabinet appointments","White House logistics","Swearing-in ceremonies","State of the Union"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:32:16.527Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","cabinet-appointments","white-house-logistics","swearing-in-ceremonies","state-of-the-union"],"audioDurationSec":178,"audioFiles":[{"file":"406-054.mp3","bytes":4276344,"durationSec":178.04,"bitrate":192152,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","transcriptGapSeconds":36,"transcriptGapShare":0.2,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/406-054.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/406-054","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/406/conversation-406-054","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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