{"conversationCode":"408-005","tapeNumber":408,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-408-005","startDateTime":"1973-02-05T21:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-05T21:09:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Feb-1973","startTime":"4:08 PM","endDate":"5-Feb-1973","endTime":"4:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:08 pm to 4:09 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 408-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 408-5\n\nDate: February 5, 1973\nTime: Between 4:08 pm and 4:09 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-23]","filename":["408-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"408-004","nextCode":"408-006","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":6.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.87,"end":6.97,"text":"Stay."},{"start":6.99,"end":8.23,"text":"I am going to the next meeting to get back to the Oval Office."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly coordinate the President's immediate schedule following a meeting in the Old Executive Office Building. Bull confirms that he will attend the upcoming session to ensure the President is able to return to the Oval Office. This exchange serves as a logistical transition to manage the President's movement between locations.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Logistics","White House operations","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:35:33.473Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","logistics","white-house-operations","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"408-005.mp3","bytes":180224,"durationSec":26.32,"bitrate":54779,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/408-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/408-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/408/conversation-408-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}