{"conversationCode":"409-003","tapeNumber":409,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-409-003","startDateTime":"1973-02-01T23:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-01T23:49:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Feb-1973","startTime":"6:47 PM","endDate":"1-Feb-1973","endTime":"6:49 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:47 pm to 6:49 pm. 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Kissinger\n                      -Walter H. Annenberg\n                      -Dinner and return\n\nBull left at 6:49 pm.","filename":["409-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"409-002","nextCode":"409-004","transcript":[{"start":4.42,"end":16.2,"text":"uh this is just to comment just mentioning mary costa what is the situation"},{"start":57.15,"end":82.75,"text":"What about the suggestions on the tourist guide?"},{"start":82.77,"end":83.51,"text":"Steve, what is the schedule tomorrow?"},{"start":83.53,"end":84.49,"text":"In a nutshell, what time is it?"},{"start":84.95,"end":106.59,"text":"I don't care, it's up to 20 people, armless, but they all get their pictures and everything along the way."},{"start":106.61,"end":109.19,"text":"It's 12.30, we're going over to the embassy for lunch."},{"start":109.21,"end":110.39,"text":"We should move there about 2.30."},{"start":110.41,"end":111.93,"text":"We have a doctor at the camp, and we're meeting at 6 or whatever."},{"start":111.95,"end":114.08,"text":"Once you're ready to go, we have cabins for everyone, so that's no problem at all."},{"start":114.28,"end":137.32,"text":"Just the four of us, or just the first train?"},{"start":137.34,"end":138.24,"text":"And you headed by Annaberg to go to Annaberg?"},{"start":138.26,"end":138.78,"text":"Yes, that's exactly right."},{"start":138.81,"end":140.49,"text":"And they'll be up around a little bit after 6, a little bit earlier than it happens."},{"start":140.51,"end":141.27,"text":"And then at 7 o'clock, we'll be there."},{"start":141.29,"end":142.39,"text":"And they'll be returning around 9, 9 o'clock, whatever."},{"start":142.41,"end":143.05,"text":"I said, will you stay all night?"},{"start":152.94,"end":169.43,"text":"All right."},{"start":169.44,"end":169.65,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen Bull reviewed the President's upcoming schedule, including the State of the Union signing and the logistics for a weekend trip to Camp David. They discussed the guest list and timeline for a lunch at the British Embassy and a dinner with Henry Kissinger and Walter Annenberg. 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