{"conversationCode":"409-013","tapeNumber":409,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-409-013","startDateTime":"1973-02-06T18:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-06T19:47:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Feb-1973","startTime":"1:57 PM","endDate":"6-Feb-1973","endTime":"2:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.;","description":"On February 6, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:57 pm and 2:47 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 409-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 409-13\n\nDate: February 6, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:57 pm and 2:47 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person.\n\n       The President's schedule\n              -State dinner for Hussein ibn Talal [King of Joran]\n                      -Guest","filename":["409-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rogers, William P."],"prevCode":"409-012","nextCode":"409-014","transcript":[{"start":0.4,"end":20.45,"text":"There's no one that should be on that list, but I don't think it's happening at the same time."},{"start":20.47,"end":21.79,"text":"I've heard of that, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen."},{"start":21.81,"end":22.51,"text":"I don't think it's going to happen."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Secretary of State William P. Rogers discuss the guest list and scheduling logistics for an upcoming state dinner honoring King Hussein of Jordan. The dialogue focuses on clarifying potential timing conflicts and verifying that controversial or inappropriate invitees are excluded from the event. The conversation concludes with a consensus that the proposed scheduling concerns are likely unfounded.","topics":["State Dinner","King Hussein of Jordan","White House protocol","Diplomatic relations","Guest list management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:37:20.023Z"},"topicSlugs":["state-dinner","king-hussein-of-jordan","white-house-protocol","diplomatic-relations","guest-list-management"],"audioDurationSec":27,"audioFiles":[{"file":"409-013.mp3","bytes":167936,"durationSec":27.48,"bitrate":48889,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/409-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/409-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/409/conversation-409-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}