{"conversationCode":"410-008","tapeNumber":410,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-410-008","startDateTime":"1973-03-13T19:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-13T20:00:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Mar-1973","startTime":"2:45 PM","endDate":"13-Mar-1973","endTime":"3:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On March 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 410-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 410-8\n\nDate: March 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:45 pm and 3:00 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n       Telephone call to unknown woman\n             -President’s suggestion\n             -Ziegler's report to the President\n\nZiegler left at an unknown time before 3:00 pm.","filename":["410-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"410-007","nextCode":"410-009","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":2.84,"text":"I'll call her."},{"start":3.14,"end":4.66,"text":"Yeah, you can call her out here."},{"start":5.42,"end":21.08,"text":"And I'll tell her that you're calling in my suggestion to read this word that the president wants to know."},{"start":21.1,"end":23.16,"text":"And give him the battery."},{"start":23.18,"end":23.72,"text":"No problem, whatever it is."},{"start":23.74,"end":25.14,"text":"It doesn't matter."},{"start":32.01,"end":55.62,"text":"Should I record you?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to place a telephone call to an unidentified woman. During the exchange, Nixon instructed Ziegler to frame the call as being made at the President’s suggestion to relay a specific message or inquiry. They also briefly discussed logistical arrangements, including the potential recording of the conversation and the provision of technical equipment.","topics":["Communication strategy","White House operations","Press Secretary","Nixon administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:38:53.301Z"},"topicSlugs":["communication-strategy","white-house-operations","press-secretary","nixon-administration"],"audioDurationSec":66,"audioFiles":[{"file":"410-008.mp3","bytes":466944,"durationSec":66.48,"bitrate":56190,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/410-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/410-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/410/conversation-410-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}