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Well, with regard to the personnel, I can't get anything done.

I don't know.

No, it's not a big task for them to do it.

There's a problem, but there is with everything.

There's merit on both sides.

It's picking with it.

But because some of the people that are trying to get this really aren't apparently any good, it's not a matter of...

Colson got a pretty ideological quarrel.

No, Colson basically died.

Oh, I know that.

I saw it this morning.

Well, what's the door?

Can we get him some, at least?

Yeah, we can get him some.

And, uh...

What George was going to do was, George has to be down to play golf with me and leave with him tomorrow.

And he was going to talk, check and see if he could, and then talk to Brennan and ask Brennan to go down with him.

And we gave him a chance to talk on the way down on the back and get Brennan into the way of the building.

We got a little bit young, but they went today, George.

Well, it was today, so maybe they're gone.

he was trying to work it out to take me with him i thought it was tomorrow yeah okay uh and uh this is one step chuck was going to talk to brandon before he left that we can get we've got a couple of the people that they can put in when he wants that aren't not bad they're no good and even chuck agrees that they really aren't the guy chuck's been pushing him

you've indicated some lack of enthusiasm for it, and they've been doing some checking, and the guy who does the checking, he wrote really good.

But if that's the guy he wants, and he's really good, we still, it may be better, but George makes the point, and it's in the best of intent, really, in this case, that there's some battles there, too, but what we're looking at is that

He's got a hell of a problem in running that place and getting the work done.

And he makes bad appointments.

And they're just concerned about that.

George had a long talk with them last week and he said, Brennan, this is very frustrating.

It's like a caged lion.

And he said, we've got to convince him that his success depends on having good people.

Some of them ought to be different from him, but he can't bring just all of the same people in.

He's got to have some people that are gone.

And then we've got to try to persuade him to get his worst bunkers out of the picture and get some good names into them.

He said, I think we failed in getting really good names to them because we don't know how to get good people.

We've got to work more at that.

And so we've got that now.

has the feeling, and John has the understanding, he says for you, that Brennan is different than other cabinet officers.

He is not to deal with the domestic counsel and all that.

And at his point of contact with the White House is Chuck Colson.

And Chuck's leaving, so that's his point of contact.

in the White House.

Chuck was going to talk to him about that, make the point that his point of contact, as Chuck told him before he was brought into the job, was George Shultz.

And that, if you listen early, I think reads that that's the right way to do it.

That he can't shape him up like he can shape up or try to shape up the other cabinet.

We've got to work with him a little differently.

Well, or Shultz could work with us closely.

Shultz is hosted by the Shultz interview.

That's exactly right.

And he has to have respect for George.

They differ on policy questions and a lot of things.

Not all that much.

But not totally.

And not as much as practically John would ever want.

Well, that's right.

So George was going to try and build this rapport with him and get together and get that hired on.

And Colson was going to talk to him about the question of establishing

you know, the relationship with George, relying on George, and so on.

And then we moved from there, and then Colson wanted to, Colson kept saying, let me give him a couple of his appointments back, and we agreed that it would be better to let George do that.

In other words, we tried to say, George is the guy we need to deal with, and then let him get some results from George right off.

George said, sure, we'll work it out, take a couple of these guys.

They are a problem, and you've got to recognize them, but if you need them, you get one in mind.

They all agree that Don Rogers should go in there, but not as an undersecretary.

And Chuck firmly believes that he should not be an undersecretary.

Does he want to fully go there as an undersecretary?

Does Brennan want to?

No, as I said, apparently so.

Brennan wants him.

Apparently, however he gets that, we're just going to talk to him about that.

That would be the origin of the post, because, you know, it's not a Rogers family.

that he agrees that he needs to say, that's right, that's right, that's right.

And now we agreed to go with his solicitor, but now he's come up with, his friend's come up with some problem with the guy.

See, Frank Doney's doing his staff work on Bramstown.

The guy he had for one of the posts is a guy who is a college guy, and Shell said, well, I know that guy's position.

He said, have you read anything he's written?

And his friend said, no.

Shell said, well...

Let's look at this big guy being ordered up from their library there.

Some thing the guy had written over the first four paragraphs was just violently anti-human.

And this is a guy, someone had told Brennan this would be a good guy's way to get him.

Actually, it was Paulson who was coming back.

Who had also endorsed him, because the guy is a friend of Paulson.

He's super, right?

And he's anti-human.

And I called my friend and said, Jesus, I'm glad we didn't get anything.

In fact, in the history, there was apparently a monumental clash right at the outset between Brennan and Allen.

Yeah.

And we've never quite recovered from that, apparently.

And Berleman is sort of, feels his instructions are, and his proper approach is to stay one step away from it, and not get into the question there.

George is perfectly willing to get into it.

Yeah.

Thank you.

getting into it.

That's the way you ought to do it.

Henry, yes?

Can you maybe just go from up here so we can see the thing over there?

Oh.

This, uh... Oh, that guy, you know, this contact...

They've set up a cover for him.

He's been on a trip.

He's going to go to New England to see Eve, and he's coming over here.

They've set up through the State Department.

They want him in secretly, and he's been in.

So he's coming in openly.

He's going to meet with the State Department, and then we'll meet secretly with him.

He has formally requested, says Saddam has requested that the guys see him and deliver a written message to Saddam.

When he comes, Henry feels it's extremely important that we see him.

And I was asked if we can arrange a half-hour appointment with him on February 23rd, which is the Friday if you go today at the Bell.

There's a possibility that we might meet each other at the same time.

Henry's cable says that the President is planning to leave on the 23rd, so he's going to defer departure in order to receive the customer.

Well, I'm sure, of course, we have to go now.

later.

get into that deal with Brandon.

My other personality was with Paul.

I don't think he did a deal with him.

I think he did.

I think we've got we've got a problem with Brandon.

There is a problem for a guy in having a special relationship being in a special position.

It would have been better off not to be.

And I think

but it's a political matter.

It's a political matter.

because he's still taking the right role.

... ... ... ... ... ...

We've taken care of it.

This is one I think I ought to check with you.

I'm checking everybody concerned.

On the CAD, we've covered Conley's desires and

We end up with one Republican vacancy on the board, and the strong recommendation is to put him on the board.

Unless you have any... No, I have a critical objection.

It's a biting desire.

Now, one thing we're thinking about is keeping the seat open for a while, and we need to lean on over at the committee to run the... No, not the committee to run the... Just the office there over...

getting this whole watergate thing done.

He knows the setup over there and all the financial stuff and all that.

He is a lawyer.

That's a pretty good ability there.

Then we're

It's a question of what we do and how we do it.

I know a candidate for Secretary of the Army, which is a big problem.

service, it would mean us absolutely nothing to let it go.

It would be a hell of a good secretary of the army.

And it would give us a hell of an image as a young guy, West Point graduate, very successful business.

We'd have somebody else I wanted to help with both now and then.

Dick Richardson is

Yes.

No.

Strongly against Callaway.

He just doesn't think he's that good.

It's been, he's been a rumor before.

I think we kind of, we're in a position where we are to offer to him.

He may turn it down.

The other guy reads his pitch.

I think we were out until East Dallas, but I think Richardson was usually in there.

All right.

Those were really plumb spots for some of them.

But Warner had his, I guess.

We all should have gone to the Air Force.

The Air Force, the best political choice from the viewpoint of partisan politics is Senator Governor Love.

Then Bush.

for a political point of view.

I mean, a lot of the government would like one.

It would be some good signals.

He looks good.

But in a sense, you don't owe love a damn thing.

And just like J.J.

It's not as bad as J.J.

I don't know if love is a more solid term than J.J. Sure, sure.

Basically, what

Uh, he'd be good at undersecretary or something.

He was very evil.

He got a outside business type black that would be good if you want to put a black man in there.

Secretary of the Air Force?

I don't know.

No, no, no, no.

He couldn't do that.

well that's what some of them said i don't know if you saw bernard jordan's thing on and he's on the cover of what he said he said they won't do everything we want administration but

It was more of a hostage man.

Right, good.

But he, early, you know, plays him along just good.

I know, because he's just close to a, I know, legitimate black kid we could deal with.

And he's pretty real, isn't he?

They were giving him, they quoted, they were giving him a bad time, some of the kids, or something, I mean, not kids, but some of the blacks, younger blacks, were saying, giving him a bad time about going to the White House.

He said, what are you doing at the White House, man, or something like that?

Playing tennis at the White House or something to give a bad time on something.

And so his answer right back was, what government program are you on, brother?

He's making a point that every black is supported by the federal government.

He's no friend, but he's sure not an enemy.

He's not an all out.

He knows you well.

He knows you were here.

He figures.

We've got some damn good manager types.

We've got a president of TRN and TRW.

We've got a president of Collins.

We've got a little boat.

Super good, middle and early type guys.

You know?

But, uh, he's pretty old.

No, I don't have time.

Very few.

Say that again.

I know, but we don't want him to let anything leave him.

And then pick the business guy on the second half if anybody wants.

Okay.

Good.

Federal Highway Administrator.

Again, I raise this with you is because the recommendation

It comes down to the Na'vi team.

The Na'vi team is a good guy.

They've got enough trouble with arresting Kurds without putting Na'vi in a damn job.

Here's where the politicians have got to check out.

I think they want him.

I'll be able to play ball.

They've hit it hard on the highway crosswalk.

He says he's with the solid.

Yeah, I hear that he's been on the highway.

All right.

Okay.

Right.

I'm going to check the direction of the curb.

It was in the middle of nowhere.

I wondered who he was, and he figured it was a Lincoln Day speech.

You know, it wasn't very, aren't you going to push it?

Yeah, I would do the same thing.

You know, Carl, the president, just, you know, he's like this book that you just consider to be one of the closest to France, and he's very impressed by this.

And then after all, you know,

Well, how do you carry it out?

Yeah, not very well.

It's only relatively a little better than Jack Allen's.

Oh well, the regrousing of the Republicans is just a suggestive endemic on others.

If you can, I wonder if you may consider dropping another phone call.

I suggest a private one.

to, uh, my cell director, you know, because of Marion Sapphire making a point that, you know, he criticized me that he was not wrong, uh, he asked me to do something like, oh, I don't want to do that.

I'm not going to criticize, I mean, that's, you know, like, why am I going to do that?

I don't know, I'm sober, I don't want to do that.

It's true.

They want, they're doing it for, they're not doing it to help us.

They're doing it to help themselves.

They're not worth it.

It's true.

We have a strong recommendation that you serve the recommendation that it's not to be good in any way.

Would you give a medal of praise to John Ford?

Why?

Well, he's a loser.

Yeah, he's about to die.

I don't appreciate it.

Very ill.

Super admirer of yours, he said something about the, you know, the one thing he would cherish is an award from you of some kind.

So I've gotten all the other awards that I want.

And I probably have to do it out west.

All right.

Do it out west.

Let me know what the issue is then.

It's interesting that I didn't realize it, but he, I think we ought to go up and do it over the, instead of just doing it there in the White House, we want to go out west.

We ought to go up there.

I didn't know he had done anything urgent to him.

did the research on this, and he says, ignoring personal abuse and criticism, he agreed to work on the Vietnam film for the USIA during 1969 to 71.

Devoted himself to that, casting a good name trip to Vietnam.

And when he's written, maybe you don't know about this, a picture advocating the President's South East Asian policy.

Good.

An unprecedented four Academy Awards.

He has a French weekend of honor, a personal award from President Tito.

Why don't you get him on the phone?

What's his name?

John Ford.

I'd really like to talk to Mr. John Ford in Hollywood.

Now, he's the producer and director.

The director, you know.

Give him a call, Mr. Pershings.

I'm going to ask him what his resident is trying to get an offer on for him.

I'd like to give him another agreement.

Maybe he thought he'd come here for it.

I'm going to watch him tomorrow.

I'm going to do it.

You know, we were, we were approaching, you know, we had that, I was about to see the carry bag come to our left here.

You never know what it will look like.

That wasn't true.

It just sort of totally distorted the guy's, uh, completely wrong way to say he would.

White House had him and ignored and don't understand middle American.

Bush is the bad guy in all of such projects.

Specifically, they didn't blame the president.

Oh, my God, they all say that.

What the hell are they going to blame the president if you're a driver or something?

God save you.

We sure as hell didn't decide the strategy as to how accomplishment was to make.

It's the people who decide how the president was to make.

It worked with you on how the president was to make.

It's the people carrying it out.

And that would be the end of pretty much it.

Well, I've been thinking a lot about FBI.

I've been talking to my husband.

I'm all over the country.

We've got several other names that are professionals, and so forth.

I don't know.

run that by John, say, how about Greg and Sullivan, et cetera.

And get to the, and Sullivan's our guy.

And then start running the place around.

Colson's only next to the thing, the IRS guy, Larson, .

Totally apolitical.

I would think the assistant analyst would.

He was the kind of guy who was a self-mortem lawyer.

His pitch to John, according to John, was that the chance to, you know, he was only here in order to serve you.

That's what he'd come to Washington for, dedication to Nixon and what Nixon's trying to do.

And then he immediately saw what John was talking about and believed to be totally political in the management of the IRS and got into, you know, playing it back.

John said...

Oh, I see.

I think he's done Chuck's another one.

Oh, good.

Chuck's got another one for us.

That sounds awfully good.

Some of our other guys have checked out Don Alexander.

Yeah, from Cincinnati.

Sounds good.

Try it.

Everybody is a son of a people.

Webster says he would be the best guy.

All right, we need to do that.

He closely describes him as a clean Webster.

And our guy, Roger Barth, over there.

Let's see what he says.

He's not in the government town, though.

But they know him.

But he is a tax man.

I'm in the State Department.

And also, he very strongly opposes Tosca to the Middle East.

So, part of it.

his objections to anybody that he wants to keep me in contact with.

Hello?

Gordon, how are you?

Yeah.

I wanted to tell you that I would like to present the Medal of Freedom

I wanted to know if you would like to come to Washington, or I'll be in California in March, and we could do it there.

You being a director would know the best place to have it.

Yes.

Well, if...

Well, I'll be in California in about the middle of March, and that would mean that you wouldn't have to come back here.

Right, right.

Well, we'll be in touch with you, our office here.

We'll work out the time, and we'll work out the kind of a party you want to have.

And you're my favorite director, as I wrote you.

And in fact, we don't look at the damn pictures.

Incidentally, as speaking.

Okay.

Good to talk to you.

You get well.

Okay.

I sure will.

Thank you.

I think he's had a stroke.

He said he's had a very bad physical situation.

He said he was the best person he ever had.

And no answers.

Did he?

Good.

No answers.

that could have been more right just

It was a morning show and everything across the board after that.

It came all day yesterday.

It was on radio all day yesterday.

It was that guy and both of those guys.

It was a real grabber.

Again, the key is you stay out of it and having said it beforehand, which was just so great.

Having said it at church, again, the press was...

and then for them to come on and do this, nobody was there that we didn't try to understand.

We couldn't have been better.

And this flight was a good thing.

I thought about it this morning.

Yeah, I saw a crash.

I'm a dumb man.

I love to have that crash.

Three days.

Three days of crash.

everybody's gonna be proud of the flag

They know that you making it there is what God wants you to do.

These guys are private.

They were bombed.

And they knew you were bombing Hanoi, I'm sure.

If the center bombed, you know, it probably doesn't have a strength.

But maybe we're not.

We haven't yet heard if he did as well.

Apparently so, because they're right here where we were hidden.

They got such a solid bunch of guys off there, but basically all I, you know, I talked to them.

They didn't cross me back, and there was a couple that were, that were added on, some other colors, and I just told them, I think I'm not going to take one of them.

I'm not going to take one.

I want to mar this.

I just want to let that get back together.

I just can't believe it, that ants can go much deeper than a beast in a river.

But the other...

The question in the earlier stuff is under conditions means by paying amenity.

That's all I can tell you.

Amnesty, in a sense, it's not amnesty, it's serving... Amnesty means forgiveness.

Total forgiveness.

That I meant.

Amnesty, I mean, if you pay a penalty, then they're welcome back to the society.

Come back home, boys.

And it's really restitution or something.

Restoration rather than amnesty.

And they aren't going to be bored in the city.

Most people are going to just come around and talk to them.

Don't you agree?

Yeah, I'm sure you do.

Of course, a lot of people think I should be bored.

You're not in the nation.

I'm so damn sure that it wouldn't divide the names.

I think it would.

What do you think?

I think it would.

Because I think, the first place you would, the people that are forehand this to you, that are against you, you can hear forehand this to me.

Good heart.

They're mostly misguided people who think it will do you some good.

They show that I have compassion.

I have an idea.

The mission of the Air Force is to maintain security and to ensure that no man is to be accomplished without the support of the Air Force.

The service of the Air Force is to ensure that no man is to be lost without our help.

Well, that's sort of a simple answer.

That may be done for the returning DOW's ideas.

That can be done basically, you know, these guys are in the service, they're going to the service.

He's a career guy.

He's a celebrity around here, like a real buddy of business.

He runs a goddamn thing well, too.

You know, I mean, he's obviously a leader, but he's a believer in God.

You've got to be sure he's the kind of guy that's happy in this kind of a job.

Well, yes, he might be, after what he's been through for a while.

I mean, he's never really been through a lot of that.

He doesn't know how to do it.

He loves his job.

Well, I think he's got a chance.

I was pushing on that, on that, on that, because I still think that's a good idea.

That's the other one.

Now another thing you ought to tell Bush

It's going to be very, very smooth down.

And you should have it close to the frog.

And with the background.

You see the little guy's coming down.

He's bringing something.

He's handing it down.

Feel it up.

It's a good feel, doesn't it?

He's still running, particularly against a guy that voted wrong in Vietnam once.

Yeah.

You just never know what can happen.

Being a veteran in Vietnam, there's not much you can call it.

I mean, several of them.

Wouldn't that be something?

These are all high-class guys.

They're...

And it would have ran down that, now it's got to be strong.

Before that storm arrived, it was a big deal.

George, who was just a bit smart.

See, in that class of 1946, he was accomplished once.

And I remember not including such a big person in that class.

The first year, he wasn't going to be in the federal 11th, but he was going to be in the government.

down there, but the astronauts, in a sense, are the enemy.

And I heard the hero say this.

You have to be patient with the enemy, not the heroes.

The war has to have some heroes.

My rock said, these are the enemies.

Don't you think so?

Sure.

The guys are strong, courageous, and they're the dramatic symbol of the enemy in the war.

And that's... Well, somebody said...

Well, I did because it was made that by the peacemakers, you know, our enemies, everybody.

The thing would get the POWs on it.

And that was the symbol, really, of this war.

It wasn't what you bought it for, but it was what symbolized it being over.

Was that Ryan?

Did you notice that George Wallace has been wearing a D.O.W.

bracelet?

A D.O.W.

bracelet that Wallace wears often.

He's probably a Wallace fan.

I don't know.

You know, you get those names just by accident.

When you get a bracelet, you don't know who the guy is.

Someone gives you one or you buy one.

It's a meaningless thing to do.

Well, we'll stay right where we are on that.

That's interesting, they're all staying, staying low on it.

Oh yeah, Kennedy and all the rest of them, all the pro-ethnic people are not saying a word.

And there's a, I don't know if that's the way to write it, you know, seriously.

Yeah.

some reporter on the street.

I mean, you know, he got a full line.

Well, there's a, uh, RIMST is basically the president's responsibility.

There is a definite provision for Congress to grant motion.

And it's a sure blanket answer.

Sure.

And, you know, I just wish they don't, well, I ask that every time I get up there.

But they think it will put a bill out.

That's

The general feeling now is that they won't leave that for the president.

They've heard about it.

Even the Kennedys and the ones that have done it.

If you ever, I'm concerned about the bison panel.

If you run that by a farm, they're changing that whole structure.

I guess they're abolishing or have abolished the Bicentennial Commission for Congress.

At least that's the plan.

Or they're going to do not have one.

They're going to set it up as an off bicentennial office for the, you know, control things that were taken by the volunteer commission.

I'm trying to get something done.

And Len's working with them all.

Probably plan out with them.

But getting the individual in charge is so terribly important that one can't be a volunteer and still be a full-time person.

You know, those ideas that I'm having.

I guess that's an idea that I must have or something.

Well, you know, just for the festival, the celebration part of it, the public festivities is contrasted to the buildings or whatever other things.

I mean, I like the band to be a, is there a place to move around in the process?

Right.

If we could wrap up March 21st, that would really help.

Although, well, let's see, that's right, it's changed now.

But it doesn't go through, it goes through public works instead of army services.

I can't imagine, unless it's just here to meet the president.

He said, they're all the Republicans.

I was looking up at the highway.

You could not search for years and not find a better setting for it.

You ought to get that settled.

You ought to get an architect started to clean it out.

We've got a program underway.

We've got to get the money raised.

We've got to get the damn thing done.

I raised the price of the postal code.

We had to listen to everybody.

You sure held that money down?

I don't think you just cannot say you gotta do something so you have to have a strong that's it

Colson makes a good case that the way you draw the line is those people who have continuous contact with the President as their normal working routine to rule out any new setting.

Therefore, rule out appearances by Erling and Kissinger named Colson and Hiddens.

McGregor, during the period that he was congressional assistant,

Why?

Take a little loop like that.

You said these people, some of them, they'll ask, some of them, they won't.

I would submit to them.

I mean, early on, that's great.

At some point, for example, I mean, the idea of an erotic word is a

Most of us worry about that.

Unless you can negotiate the ground rules twice with that.

I mean, the parameters within which the question is in progress.

Of course, if it's a written thing, then your refusal to answer doesn't come through nearly as badly as when you're on television.

That's where they can make you look awful bad right over and over and over again.

How do you describe what you're doing?

What are you doing at the moment?

I'm glad you could step it up on a defined basis.

Read upon my question.

It was negotiated in terms of that, you know, those specific areas in which you would take questions and you'd find the answer in a lot of those areas.

There's no reason for us.

I don't know why, but Bill's got a super hot family.

He's wearing it in there.

Yeah, he is.

I hear a moment turned down.

What do you think about the stands out here putting up a confirmation box?

I don't think so.

I don't know.

I don't think it's an equal chance.

I can show you how great a stand that is.

You can't claim to be perfect or anything like that.

One thing for sure, though, is you've got to get the... You're absolutely right.

You've got to not be as a burden down as you've been for quite a few days.

A lot of it is just...

It's just a problem.

How can you worry about it?

Well, we have a team going on an event.

Close to you, of course.

Is there anything to call in?

Each of the members of the office of the committee

of this kind of choice.

Very strange thing on that one.

If you're going to do it, then take everything that happened with him at all and sue Grady.

But, of course, Sue Grady isn't going to stand still for it.

If you sit the other way, you're going to leave four or five things unanswered.

And I don't want you to worry about it.

Obviously, it's the thing that he's doing, and Sue Grady's the one that's unanswered.

He's the personality that you're going to use.

The question is, what does Sue Grady get?

The question on that though is whether you have any option.

They're going to haul Cigretti up there anyway.

There's no way for him to be in there.

I mean, I don't know.

I don't know.

Let's go to this and answer everything.

There's going to be a certain number of people saying, well, I don't know this.

Trust me, I don't know.

And then you're going to come down to me and say, well, I don't know.

Well, it's bad.

Of course, the guy, Colson, makes the point, too, so there's a good part of it.

I'm going to say to whoever is involved, there is a good involvement.

We're going to have that thing on now.

We're going to be interacting with them.

So that's what we're trying to do.

Well, that's easy to say, but there's some other people who get out.

Well, Colt tried that on me.

He said, why not?

He said, Mitchell's finicky.

I'm going to get hung on this anyway.

Why doesn't he come out now and say I'm not better than him?

Let me just first go on.

I said, well, here's what I want.

He said, I authorized it.

He didn't know that I authorized it, but I didn't authorize it.

I authorize, he can say maybe there is a way, he can say I authorize the activity, I did not authorize the specific act.

I authorize the intelligence actor.

I authorize the report.

I did, of course, that was clear above, that's why I did not authorize, I did not authorize the report.

I'm going to have a case case in here, I'm not sure.

So eventually, my father's making a murder in 10, and I just wanted to say that.

It did not impact me.

They said that they authorized it, but they didn't want to know about me talking to the murder.

It's hard for me to believe that

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that apparently they killed it was that McCord was involved in it.

And it's all supposed to be being done by outside people, like this Parker and the humans and all that, but there were four people.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I think it was one of those people.

McCord was in it too.

I wonder where you got the word on the sentence.

I don't know if I think it's this way.

That's what Chuck does.

That's the fine strategy of the law.

Every delay is effective.

There's a payoff for every delay.

I agree.

Okay.

And he also wants us to talk about what I am told.

I don't know how much of what I told was back, but he said, oh, unless there are any dangers to Mitchell or anything,

Okay.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I think you probably have a problem with this down there, okay?

And, uh, it probably is a problem that you get 90% of the discomfort anyway, unless you go take the other 10 minutes in there.

Realize you're 10 minutes in there.

Why?

Why not have them in the dining room?

One, you don't have to do a steak dinner.

You don't have to go out there and do it.

we had it

Well, on the other hand, it's better to have entertainment.

They have to get stuck with them later.

They say, yeah, you have to sit and talk.

They're standing around in the other room.

And the beauty of the present scheme of everything, after dinner and guests, is that we have to go shake hands with them after dinner and guests before they'll leave.

That would be a nice deal.

It would be nice enough for me to have that in the long run.

Yeah, I heard.

I just think that, I just feel that you've probably gone a little too far.

I'm going to have to move on.

I'm going to have to do.

I heard that you're throwing it up a little too much now.

What have I ever planned?

I think the other thing I can do is go and tell him.

You know, it's such a waste to hear you develop this.

You have to use the energy to prepare something.

You have to do it.

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I think maybe the dinner is a good idea.

Your idea is to put it together as a big dinner for sure.

I'll get the numbers from being able to see there.

And then you can have each view number with one.

Otherwise, it's like more of one.

Now it's done.

Now with any of that, it looks like you're exploiting, uh, his piece of crime.

So, you know, that would be, that would be, that would be, that would be, that would be, that would be, that would be,

Thank you.

I think there's some way to cut the accordion off.

So, how'd your announcement go?

Yeah.

I think we got through it.

Raised the light a lot.

Yeah.

I think it was a well-attended way to get across.

All right, fine.

Okay.

Sure.

Well, I gave him a good full day, and that's what we have to do.

Yeah.

Yeah, they got a lot.

We had Schultz, Gowling, Rostow.

Was that it?

Three.

Yeah.

Those were three of them.

in any way unless somebody, like us, somebody's gonna take a rap.

That's what you can do.

That's what I point out to Jeff, you're asking.

The commissioner does that, that means he's disbarred.

Well, disbarred and dishonored, convicted as a criminal, probably goes to jail.

You might get a judge to suspend his sentence, but you might not.

This one is so screwed up.

We haven't had her in a while.

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35 years.

and get stuff on Kennedy and all that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Gee, if only that guy has to be the director.

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After I follow it up on the other side.