Nixon & Haldeman on Amnesty and Prisoners of war

Well, he's driving through the cut loose today.
I don't know.
Take it back, please.
No, instead of driving, I don't know.
Pressure.
Oh, because I'm an amnesty.
Secretary of State William P. Rogers in an emotion-choked voice and his eyes glistening with unshed tears said Thursday he thought it was time to all of us took a little pride in our country.
And then I've already sent people to the flag once you can't be in the white people.
Rebuilding North Vietnam while refusing amnesty to draft invaders.
Lincoln rebuilt the South.
Rogers started his response with a legalistic explanation that although domestic reconciliation is necessary in the United States, as long as there is judicial process, the evil conscience of the character knows no recognizable reasons for resisting a draft.
Same thing, Sid, we have a system.
Sid, you have to respond to the draft.
And his voice choked with emotion as he said to him, when some fled or deserted, someone had to take their place.
Someone had to die.
We had 46,000 battle casualties.
We can't forget those who lost their lives.
Seeking to find out the country's wounds, he said, I don't believe we can get off to a better start than seeing those prisoners of war come home.
That doesn't give you pride at the beginning of the war.
He concluded his voice, breaking badly, I think it's time that all of us took a little pride in the country.
How do you justify that?
You should ask me that question.
Do the does.
Yeah.
I should have called.
I thought of it this morning.
I was going to get ahold of it.
I just thought it was a good idea.
or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or
yelling, shouting, thank God for bringing our prisoners home.
And he said, thank God.
God bless the president.
So we're around here so cynical, quite honestly.
We don't realize what the country feels like.
We do.
You've got to be sure.
I guess we do.
We should.
What I meant is, we don't shout and yell and so forth.
But out there, there are people that want to shout and yell.
You've got to get out of here.
You can't do it in the State Department.
They would shout and yell there.
The secretary's one.
That's my point.
So, I mean, I'm not going to get the secretary.
And people are like, thanks for bringing our president back.
He's just trying to stay home today.
It's really something.
For those of you who have a presentation, we want to say thank you.
They've returned.
They've stayed with you.
They did last night.
They're carrying it live at 730.
It couldn't have been a better time.
They landed it.
That's good.
So, we have.
We don't have it.
It's good now.
Where is it?
75 degrees somewhere.
75 or 33.
Yeah, that's fine.
It stays at 70.
The problem is, if you're getting out of it at 60, what do you do?
Show them.
You can do what you see in the morning, but not call at 9 o'clock.
And I'll sort of do it.
I'll do it at 9 o'clock.
I wouldn't think all of us would be more outspoken than Tim.
The ones who created the group were more and more and more and more assistant secretaries.
They were, you know, they were taking in a hell of a lot of the group like Captain.
People going over there, quite bad as hell, includes the captain officer too.
And, oh, for Elliot to produce you in the Vatican was a coup d'etat.
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So I think maybe the next move of the Dove is supportive of some of the young people.
I'm trying to tie the Asian argument on the amnesty and also the Asian dialogue.
Yeah.
I hope they do die.
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Sure.
God, that's a non-sequitur for that to say.
How can we in North Vietnam not provide amnesty to the assholes that wouldn't fight?
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Terry, you all right?
Yes, sir.
We'll all start with Colin.
He's a great experience.
Good.
Who called him to call you?
I called him.
He said, the evaluation thing is right on.
It's about the majority of January.
All right.
He said, the only thing I got is to be sure to keep him out from the trade agreement and just go over the work, follow the economist theory, and leave out of it.
He said, let him not take care of it.
The whole secret is the trade agreement.
I couldn't explain the promise on that.
We've got four different sources.
And then to get word to the president that don't send Kissinger over to negotiate with the Arabs.
And they said, principal, do you remember the very reasonable guy on our side, one of the other men, that they cannot accept the status quo?
No Arab leader can end up with a settlement that leaps into where they are.
Israel's got to give up some way.
It's true.
In alternatives, the Arabs will swing, either swing their gun this way, and pull us, or they'll be divided, and solid, and locked in the city of Israel.
And if they try to take fire over the Philippines and move it around in a micro-media, it says the U.N. is trying to stir up a micro-media.
I didn't talk about it.
No, I started.
Well, I kind of raised the argument that I didn't push it.
He's going to be up here next week.
How'd you get along?
Saw Rose, I guess.
Pretty good?
I don't know.
I sent a letter to Mal.
All right.
Yeah.
She said...
The reason you shouldn't send a letter, she thought, was that Duncan, especially, was very hurt by this move.
Do we know that?
Well, so I said, well, that isn't what Duncan told Morgan.
Nor would he have told the Secret Service.
That's the objective.
They even offered Duncan the head of the deep pit.
Yeah, at one point.
Her argument is that he...
But when they were talking about that, he was... Well, I talked to Duncan.
I said, well, maybe I ought to talk to Dylan.
There's a misunderstanding over there.
You've already straightened out.
So I called Duncan.
At home.
And... And...
but
He said, I must admit that I was concerned about the question and the changes being made, whether it might have had some basis in peaking on any of the principles that some better performance.
So I thought it was not exactly the opposite.
The whole point of the objective was to give you the chance to move up.
That's what Morgan was supposed to have said to you, and I'm really surprised that he didn't.
Gus said, no, he did.
I wasn't talking to Rose.
See, Rose called me.
He said, I didn't mention it.
Morgan called me.
I said, Rose called me.
That's right.
I'm sorry, she wasn't.
She says, first she pretended she had to talk to him, and then she said she had.
Anyway.
He said, I had to cover it up.
Morgan told me because I was supposed to be on the record.
He said, Morgan did cover it that way, but he said, Ed's still in there and I don't know him very well and I wasn't sure whether I was going to be back.
How old was he?
Where did he publish it?
Well, maybe he should have.
I don't know.
He's been so sensitive about not getting into the website.
I was trying to go back.
He said, well, I agree.
I agree.
I was the one who told you that.
It's not important.
It's not bigotry.
So, anyway, he was very appreciative that I called him.
He said that call sets all of his concerns in that area to rest.
He didn't pay any attention to him.
He always had a feeling from all the demands that, you know, he was going well.
That's the only way to get out of it.
There's no question about that.
There's no question as far as the... Get her in for a picture.
Get her in for a picture.
Yeah, I guess we should still ask her.
I was announcing... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I think we've got some people pollinating things here.
Who in the hell can't get rid of everything?
Who is it that is pollinating us?
Is it Rose?
Or is it somebody else?
Or is it a mentor?
I just don't know.
I just don't know.
What's your guess?
Tell me honestly what your guess is.
My guess is that it's Rose.
But why?
Oh, just to start in general.
I don't think it is.
Maybe it isn't.
She gets, you know, even the chicken, she doesn't like.
But it's, she has a, it's her way of saying personal things that she doesn't, she thinks
She always takes the side of somebody who's being hammered.
She told me on the J-Line, we talked about the J-Line.
She said she did not give any surprise to J-Line.
She tried to be encouraging, but she felt for him it was the best thing for him to do.
She told me when we talked about it.
I don't know why she doesn't, I don't know why she's, why she's bitter, but I think she is about some things sometimes.
She lives up to that.
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all of these pieces over time to the other end of the scale, which it is, every single one of them, for sure.
It's completely out of the blue, and it's coming back in a different direction.
It's locked out.
Well, I don't talk to you all the time, so I don't know.
Unless you've got a story to share with me.
you can't be sure, which in no way did I imply or even allude to.
So, she decided to deny it, which she did.
But she may have done that.
She may have undergone it.
Okay?
She did it under credit, and she was denied it, because that's what happened.
She also applied, she had to talk to Ted and say,
She said that she had seen it passing or something out there where she had a party at her house.
It was kind of exactly the same.
That's it.
There we go.
People always divide and decrease.
It's just the nature of the world.
I just think it's necessary for
Well, that's it.
That's the point.
She could have checked it out before writing it.
I mean, I'm trying to get upset.
She ought to raise it with one of us who...
You and her can always pretend both sides of the damn thing.
I'm trying to do anybody a hand.
So, that's, and she, I think in her case, when she faces up to me, she knows that, that part of the problem in her case is probably, probably, probably, probably, definitely.
We're not timid, everybody.
We were there, of course.
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If you've got anything to...
I will.
Take your cup.
Take your cup.
Every one of the big contributors will go to the sky and do a dinner with his wife.
That's all I ask.
If you're doing...
Okay, the sky and the dinner, but not to these evenings.
Why would any big contributor be doing anything anyway?
That's another stag that would not come to the evening.
They would come to the dinner.
It's all right.
I mean, it depends.
I'd say the real big ones should come to the dinner.
Except that's such a close point in time.
I wouldn't have them come to the stag and then to the evening.
Yeah.
I agree.
Don't have those that have been to the dinners to a stag now.
Right.
I don't think there's a need for them.
Right.
They've been to one.
Well, I wouldn't have the evening at all.
There's people you're going to put on the evenings at the last.
I wouldn't have that for the stag.
Don't need it.
You've already wanted two.
Same here.
I don't think you need to.
I think that was next year.
The ones for the stag, we'll have two in the sense of having them while they're on.
I see the Jews covers a lot of them.
Because all the Jewish supporters were really contributing to them.
Then maybe you have another stag next year picking up, or later in the year, picking up those that have been... See, what I mean is I don't want some of those that have been to the tenors to be refused.
I don't think you want the same guy in the White House within a couple of months.
You do that just because.
I don't see them all the time.
Fair enough?
Those dinners are less at the stag and the patient's out very soon.
I like to get those out right now.
Let me talk to you about that dinner, that briefing.
I'm not asking you to do anything tonight.
I have a feeling that I had better do that first breathing effort in return rather than have him do it.
What are you going to do about it?
He's going to be quite insistent on doing it.
He can breathe too.
But after I have to do what I need to do, I'm going to let him do it.
He shouldn't come back and have a spectacular event.
That's my point.
I agree.
I would think the way to do it is for you to say that you would have press conference coming up
What have we got?
Would you check to see whether I got Thursday?
I guess we haven't voted yet on Thursday.
Yeah, well, what have we got?
We've got just Prince Fawkes.
Thursday, yeah.
And Thursday, yeah.
Is it your feeling as you raised it the other day that this should be the time to do a televised broadcast?
Or you don't feel this?
No?
You do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
we've had so much let me say i have sort of a feeling that we've had so much on the prisoners this is not the time that i can go out there okay
I'd like that for him to be capable of the fact that I'm going to do a press conference, a daily press conference, where Henry should provide, should do a background read prior to the plan.
And that he should not have it on television because of his agreement to go on
What's that woman's name?
You see what I mean?
That will give him a rationale.
But that would not be fair for him to go on.
If that's what he passed on, then he could help start the prayer and answer the other.
But I would need the answers on that.
On that, which he could prepare on the way back from his trips and stuff like that.
It's not good?
Yep.
All right.
His return is fairly good.
It's a different matter.
He's coming back with a hot food system anyway.
We already put up .
I'd like to have somebody get to work right away and entertain them for the evening.
I don't know, what do you have in mind for those who think we're really ought to be good?
There we have you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know what I've done.
All they do, they're the grousers and getchers.
They're going to come up there and grouse and get you up.
And he's getting too calm.
He can attend the functions, and you can see in their offices, seeing them on their ground, the buses and the sort of more formal things, I think will encourage them to be down.
In two cents, the future, you're going to have a little bit more of this drag over.
I said, oh, well, I don't think you can get enough of that.
You know, God really was still with you.
They have to do that.
They want me to do that.
I think having done it, I feel that it's just not fair to him to have to submit himself to all that.
And also, I think it means more to those congressmen to be invited down to have lunch with him.
It is for him to go up on their ground.
He's trying hard to put this candidate business together and do it fast, which does make sense.
What reads in there is a thing.
Great.
Glad you agreed to it.
No, I didn't read that.
Getting back to those people.
If we could get back to the office, you'd set that motion right away.
Everyone might have another one day.
That's right.
Yeah, that's what you've got.
All right.
I'd like to do that.
because I wanted to get their invitations.
You know, you really get to a point where they're just the 6th and 7th, and you get the invitation, and you know they're coming.
That's quite the event.
And I follow up with their dinners, like the end of the year, and the first night.
And one point I wanted to make is that
Now, not always.
through it, just so you know where we're at on this.
I want to make sure we're doing the right things, but if I may.
There's these wild little bits and pieces in here, and I'm trying to be a call for Henry and Bill to make the point that, first of all, you know, we want you, you invited
for an official visit to Washington.
He talked to Singapore on the contact system.
And he accepted it.
And he was going to be playing right in trust.
Maybe they did, but I didn't.
The President talked to the Prime Minister via satellite and Singapore played in it.
Trump said, oh, I didn't.
They recommended that I did not talk to him.
So that's not true.
So just put that down.
I know what I did.
I didn't talk to him.
It's just he's asking about it.
You can call him.
There's not going to be any official wisdom.
What they're asking there is an office call of 30 minutes.
It's going to be March 22nd to 23rd or April 4th.
I don't know if he'll be here anyway.
He's going to do some lectures.
April 4th and 5th.
I don't know.
He had asked to become the CEO.
When you sent her to the inauguration, you put off the Steelers for a bit in 272.
I would prefer the Ivory Coast.
Ivory Coast is the other recommendation.
and he is the one who can talk to you on the set of whatever.
And I'll say, you know, I have to go to that meeting.
And they're recommending a state visit.
I don't want to say, no, okay.
No, well, okay, okay.
But if you're in October, you'll be able to talk to the doctor because they say there's an invitation to go to October.
I'm not going to have two bucks in one ear.
You see what I mean?
Shall the other one do it?
I prefer I be close first than the other one.
The other one in Africa is, you've still got an outstanding invitation to the General General in Nigeria.
No, I wouldn't do that.
They recommend that you not... No.
I'm just not going to do it.
Out.
I didn't issue that.
They say we should invite one G11 on it.
No.
I can't do it this year.
I've had Jordan.
That's too much this year.
I might consider it next year.
Just don't do it now.
I don't mind that at all because people want to come.
Okay?
That can be done at the biggest time.
All right.
They say, again, that you have an outstanding invitation and principle to both Hirohio and Tanaka.
They're recommending that you invite Hirohio in the second half of the year and Tanaka in the first half of the year.
Well, I will not have to do that.
It's a change.
Got to have two visits from the Japanese in one year, and they don't goddamn let me have two.
If you were getting a little shit found the second half of the year, I'm going to have to knock her out of the way.
Okay?
That's it.
You invited the, you know, actually came to Thailand in 72 and they weren't able to accept.
They're suggesting that we can do the invitation on the basis that they probably won't accept it.
All right, fine.
Yeah, that would be, you know, people want to.
I'm sure they will.
Rogers had been recommending equipment from Australia to do a drug recommendation.
Of course.
Now, we call you office callers.
Oh, I'm sure I'll do that.
And now, April.
Christ, he illustrated me.
Seventy-four.
Just repeat them for your hospital contract.
Seventy-four.
Seventy-four.
He was Slavia, the president, premier, and now, you know, just
It could be later this year.
I don't know.
And drag it a little bit.
Yes.
It's the same thing.
That would be, if we're going to have Sinatra, a good excuse to have him.
You know what I mean?
He is Italian.
So Sinatra comes to me.
I've mentioned Sinatra before.
But I think a little cool enough for him to have him in the summer or early fall.
I think you should invite him for a burial for a boy.
No, never.
And also, Boxer and Bolivia, they said, either of them will survive.
I'm not going to invite either one.
I'm not going to have anybody come to America this year.
I don't mean to.
I've done nothing about it.
I think Uruguay is more of a ship.
Bolivia is not going to be a ship.
They both know it.
They've drawn a line.
That's what I can't do.
I don't want to be stressed.
A pair of us, the dictators, Christ, Jesus, and I just got re-elected.
We'll put a note down.
I want some people, somebody to go there.
It's an operation.
It's an operation.
It's a nice country.
It's a nice place.
It's a nice place.
Okay.
Uruguay and Bolivia.
Question?
Oh, yes.
You invited them and they're all accepted.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, for us, it's the same for him.
You just don't have the, uh, like, I don't know, like, uh, well, Blacktop is the whole name.
There was dinner at night, you know, the official visit, the visiting officer, the, uh, the state warehouse, you know, the official visit.
Always want that done, okay?
I'm not sure that the state visit was all right there, too.
Velasco, Peru, you know, I agree with that.
They should help them.
It looks like I haven't fortified it this year.
I knew it all along.
I'm just trying to keep it down.
Those are our commitments.
But the period to think about is about the 1st of October.
Well, October and November basically is the period to about the 1st and 2nd
The space amount is better than stacking them up.
All right.
And then in January and February, there should be no visits until February.
Nothing in January.
And all the others.
Right.
And around that, the first of February, we're going to have a little parade.
One in April, one in May, one in June.
One in each of those three months.
I got the old lady in March the one day that I got her.
Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew, Lee Kuan Yew,
What day of the week is the best for us?
We don't want to screw up.
Thursday night is pretty good.
It is.
It's pretty good, but that's also the television time.
In case I want to do a press conference.
Well, the only thing you can do is to do it on Tuesday night.
I think we're Tuesday night.
And that day's Wednesday, and Thursday's the clear.
But it's something like Tuesday night.
And that day's the Wednesday, and Thursday's the clear is the question.
I think Thursday's about the best day for the question.
Thursday's the Friday season.
We have to take two from the executive branch.
While we had Kent Ballou and Curtis Tarver, we were trying to keep it low level.
We could put Kendall Bentley in instead of one of those, which gives you a loan.
But I'd say if you wanted to put her in instead of Ballou, probably the correct one.
Tarver doesn't want another one for the policy.
She doesn't either, don't you know?
It's not a fair amount of money.
Bob Harvey, you guys have got a wire from the chair in the bushes.
We've got it.
And it's dead, actually.
Alright, so we're going to look at it.
Alright, so we're going to look at it.
We've got it.
We've got it.
We've got it.
Undersecretary, you have to have a secretary.
You don't want to raise it to that high of a level.
If they don't feel it, you shouldn't.
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Alright, good.
She's smart.
Alright, good.
That's good.
I think that's a little better.
Good.
Thank you.
over down we boil them to Russell Peterson
Ed Meeks is the one that finally started the military when I was growing up and then I grew up.
The other day I had the assistant secretary of the administrator of the AA.
It's all right with me.
It's just all right with me.
Of course it's pushing hard for Senator Roe.
Because he's so bright and articulate and conceptual genius.
And we don't want him on the road.
The problem is
Everybody there doesn't think he, everybody who knows him thinks he could not handle the program.
He's a great front man, but a terrible inside man.
Chuck this fellow.
Chuck doesn't think he needs to be there, but he thinks we've got to keep the administration professional with these jobs and be a chartered one.
We have a poll, a 40-year-old poll.
who, uh, Colson recommended, Eric McHugh, might be a strong man, though, at this point.
He was, uh, a trial lawyer in New York.
Who's Mies?
Mies is Governor Reagan's executive assistant.
Oh, shit, now legal affairs secretary.
He used to be the sheriff, or DA, now he's the county.
He's
The background is not as strong, but a lot of cold.
Oh, you have to travel all year long.
He's a bright, energetic, energetic candidate.
He doesn't possess any background, but has a statue of the Red Bull and the various industries that he has been involved in.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Gary Kemp, and Special Prosecutor of the Gary County Bar.
He would have done an understanding.
Just to talk about it.
The other one is a Syrian guy.
He's the Executive Director of the Waterfront Commission in the United States.
He's 58 years old and federal.
He doesn't seem to know much about it.
I would prefer Santa Rella to myself.
I just prefer that with a strong temperature.
You know, I mean, just like the deal with a guy that knows he can take himself on a race, you know, he doesn't have that much of a deal with it.
You know, be a little keen.
Run Santorelli by me.
Yeah, take one by me.
Go to one side of Santorelli.
I don't know where he is.
You say that I drive to Santorelli and then have Colson's man call him or somebody.
Yeah.
What's the worst thing about it?
Well, I don't raise very many, but some of those, yeah.
But I have feelings, I agree that I have feelings about some, just my own future, that I can draw on my own feelings.
But he doesn't feel that way either.
He's a, he's a, he's a very, he'd be good as far as a strong right-wing type guy who will drive the right kind of realization.
He's a center-out, one-center-out.
He's a hard right-wing.
Try Santorelli.
Don't bring it back to me yet.
Everybody, please, I'll give you a call.
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If you did it on the way of the Lord, you'd save my name and be able to go in.
That would be the purpose of my life.
Is there anything else we could do about it?
We've probably got something to say.
I think that we're just going to leave it right here.
Yeah.
When we start and then try to turn it off, it should be kind of on the other side.
I would go to a bunch of...
I can say the first one we received was not a Carolina one.
And rather than going on such a hurried basis, go on the way back to the floor.
And the faces that would be down there may invite you to stop on the way back.
Just looking it up, it's probably just blue.
Don't see anything.
Good Tuesday morning.
Get back here to the area and move around 10 o'clock.
Check with Gary, you know, so that we don't have to do a motion into that distance there.
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You're totally right about the fact that the more I think about it, the more I think about it, the more I think about it.
9 o'clock or 7 o'clock at the restaurant is not the time.
But if you're writing along, that's really not bad.
Right?
Well, you see, what it could be,
Mike, you've got a telephone.
We're out there with you.
What are your thoughts about that piece of ice?
What does it feel like?
Do you want to sit down and talk more?
And Rick, you've got your arms up.
I want to hear you talk about this.
I have mixed feelings.
I don't know.
As you know, I don't want the goddamn prize.
I don't expect something.
I'm sorry.
I'm just wondering.
Maybe you're just as well.
You could just say, let him go ahead.
And don't give it.
If they give it to somebody else, why?
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Why would he ask you that?
That's the problem.
They have a press conference, actually.
That's why I'd like you to talk to Bill Rodgers.
You know where I was at two days ago.
I don't know about you.
You bring in PR and stuff like that.
You've got to catch them, right?
And maybe set them up.
That's the group that decided.
The other thing I want to do that would raise the two foot was different.
Again, this question is a great argument.
any of these other functions, whether, whether we just say the hell of all, or whether I do one.
One.
Cheers.
I know that we shouldn't, we shouldn't just sort of decide to do something else.
You sort of check it off.
You would.
What citizen matters?
They've been pushing.
I just said, it's just to the world, far and wide.
It's a whole.
It matters to the people.
Right.
It was a thing that they worked together here.
What would we do then?
How would it be done?
Just get him in the office and do it.
He's broken.
I don't think you want to get into presenting.
The idea was to have you do the first batch or whatever, but I was just going to watch the program, and then you would just have a camera doctor or something go and present another piece.
Do you recognize this?
I'm Chuck Harrell.
Do you recognize this?
I heard symbolic.
Okay.
I have a question.
How about this dining room?
Do you have a picture of any blood going on?
And each of them with their family.
And we decided to kind of go back to doing it a little longer.
But I'm not sure we decided to do it.
No dinner, no reception, no coffee, no show.
The other thing you can do is, if it's not good, here, do it somewhere, I don't know, someplace, with just one citizen.
But that isn't something you can do at all.
One other thing I think I'll discuss with John, because I'm sure he's going to be very long anyway,
Fitzsimmons wants me to come to a dinner of Bob's, but they think you give them Bob's traditional thing.
They want the green thing.
Obviously, you know, you can't have the green thing unless I have the green thing.
I have a notion that that's one of the traditional Bob's.
But it's a dandruff, it's an egg, it's not the cake.
It's a traditional Bob's.
That's not bad, really.
because it's in May.
I think you can talk, you can check it out.
John has the date.
And if you or John, John, if you want to, just call Ed and say, this is an excellent event for you.
Thank you so much.
You understand what I mean?
I've never gotten any response.
I'm not going to do it now.
That's what that is.
I don't want to do that.
Right.
All right.
I don't think that's the solution.
I just think it's case-by-case.
It's a possibility.
I just think that's the solution.
I don't think that's the solution.
I just think that's the solution.
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He is good.
He's got a great deal of good mind and certain stuff.
He has a pretty bad spirit.
Well, it's about one after another.
It's always taking something off.
It's very good.
Not good.
Not good.
Not good at all.
But actually, it's one of the real ones.
It's got to be that way.
It's got to be a man.
It's got to be a man.
But even if he feels it's a man, he's got to be honest.
He's fair-minded about it.
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I had an idea that people would see, but I had no idea how to feel about it.
I thought it was essentially an emotion that was coming to me when I was coming out of another hangar.
And all of a sudden, it comes out.
God bless the president.
President, God bless America.
Thank you, President.
Thank America.
Freedom worked awfully well, plus having a spot at Park Field without the man.
Yeah.
Without leaving anybody else, so that they were the focus, the guys themselves.
Yeah.
And having an officer, because the senior guy has a spokesman on this one, and he has
But we were, I would guess some of those other people, we sort of fell into it without too much of a plan, you know.
The idea is we were planning.
The children, again, the PR is such a very, you know, we've got to have a plan.
We've got to go to class.
We've got to do this.
We've got to do that.
And so, well, we just didn't get on the track.
So I just went to the press conference and said, no, we're not going to do that.
And off they came.
So they said, right.
But before they had, I was in a church.
And the little ones, there was so much noise.
We don't do it.
There was a military.
All of them.
There was a plane.
Thank you.
See, the gray is going to hammer that down.
He's going to examine the situation.
I guess he's working over his pants.
Well, what do you think about the police?
Do you have any ideas?
Depends on the location.
You look forward to it.
It's never quite that bad, although it was gone after I was arrested.
We've got here a very legitimate...
We've got a turkey.
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You don't change what you're doing.
Whatever you do doesn't get any attention.
Yes, you do.
And being isolated for a while, especially now.
I can understand why these people don't know.
He said, I guess I'm a bummer.
I realize why in the first place.
It's pretty clear.
The war?
It's pretty clear.
Oh, I'm just remembering the truth.
I don't remember the truth.
Yeah, November 2.
I couldn't say the word.
I mean, he was talking about December.
Yeah, the bombing.
He said the other interesting thing that nobody seems to have noticed is that while all the press attention and the buzz was on who was flying up to Camp David and all that, there was the president, you know, the personnel things, reorganizing and all that, and nobody's noticed that he was running another track at the same time, which was obviously that he had kissed Joe in that comparison.
He was going back and forth, and I said, well, you're doing it right.
That was one of the hardest working periods in the entire four years, right?
because he had to shift back and forth and so you have to go through a long series of meetings with one cabin officer and then another and then some staff people on structure and stuff like that and then shift gears completely to deal with the gist of your tables and the reports that came back and the plans that were going on there.
You could also say that one of the decisions of the four years was the toughest decision of the four years.
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