{"conversationCode":"410-022","tapeNumber":410,"conversationNumber":22,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-410-022","startDateTime":"1973-03-15T21:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-15T21:29:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Mar-1973","startTime":"4:26 PM","endDate":"15-Mar-1973","endTime":"4:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.);","description":"On March 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Adm. Thomas H. Moorer met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:26 pm to 4:29 pm. 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(Adm.)"],"prevCode":"410-021","nextCode":"410-023","transcript":[{"start":0.77,"end":5.12,"text":"Hello."},{"start":6.07,"end":14.66,"text":"I forgot to mention to you in the middle of the day, I had a call and I had a request."},{"start":15.1,"end":38.36,"text":"But then"},{"start":38.66,"end":61.97,"text":"On the field of everything, I said, well, this is one of the great stories."},{"start":61.98,"end":62.6,"text":"I said, we cannot be ready yet."},{"start":62.62,"end":63.61,"text":"We'll have to wait until after all of the return."},{"start":63.63,"end":64.29,"text":"But that means what we have done."},{"start":64.31,"end":66.25,"text":"The contributions of the lady, the nurse, the nurse, the dramatic emotional story, it's all gone."},{"start":66.27,"end":66.61,"text":"It's all settled."},{"start":66.63,"end":67.55,"text":"It's one of the important diaries of the book."},{"start":68.85,"end":97.66,"text":"He, of course, told me, I told him, he would like to have Hansel Baldwin, of course, you know, he would like to sign him, but he can't do it."},{"start":97.68,"end":98.82,"text":"He would like to have Hansel Baldwin, but he can't do it."},{"start":100.76,"end":120.74,"text":"I like the idea that I told him that you would be, you know, on the call."},{"start":120.76,"end":124.95,"text":"I mean, that you would cooperate, that I'm sure you would cooperate."},{"start":124.97,"end":126.51,"text":"Of course, as you know, the digestive system, they're just trying to help us."},{"start":126.53,"end":126.93,"text":"They're on our side."},{"start":126.95,"end":129.97,"text":"And what I would think is that all of us, because she's probably responsible, and we're people who are, you know, we've got to be able to move forward."},{"start":130.36,"end":156.8,"text":"so they can start collecting the material now and we'll all have a very positive story about it."},{"start":156.82,"end":159.7,"text":"So I just wanted to alert you that if they call, which I assume they will, probably there is a point in time where people are expecting an idea."},{"start":159.72,"end":159.82,"text":"Sure."},{"start":161.71,"end":166.36,"text":"Sure."},{"start":166.7,"end":167.2,"text":"Great."},{"start":167.28,"end":182.16,"text":"But I know this, too, that, as you realize, there are very few members of Gresham who thought the contract was going to be there."},{"start":182.18,"end":182.8,"text":"I just came to my own decision."},{"start":182.82,"end":184.36,"text":"There's absolutely nothing to believe, per se, or anything about this."},{"start":184.38,"end":186.98,"text":"Of course, a lot of it is not present."},{"start":187,"end":188.97,"text":"So tell me, because after 28 months, we were going to be able to talk about it a little bit later."},{"start":192.17,"end":203.26,"text":"All right."},{"start":204.44,"end":204.54,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Admiral Thomas Moorer discuss the management of a high-profile, emotionally compelling news story involving the return of prisoners of war and the contributions of a specific nurse. Nixon requests that Moorer cooperate with anticipated media inquiries, emphasizing the need to shape a positive narrative regarding these events. The conversation serves as an alert to ensure military personnel are prepared to provide coordinated testimony once the timing is appropriate.","topics":["Prisoners of War","Public Relations","Media Strategy","Military Personnel","Vietnam War"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:40:15.538Z"},"topicSlugs":["prisoners-of-war","public-relations","media-strategy","military-personnel","vietnam-war"],"audioDurationSec":213,"audioFiles":[{"file":"410-022.mp3","bytes":1507328,"durationSec":212.52,"bitrate":56741,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","transcriptGapSeconds":122,"transcriptGapShare":0.57,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/410-022.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/410-022","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/410/conversation-410-022","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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