{"conversationCode":"410-026","tapeNumber":410,"conversationNumber":26,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-410-026","startDateTime":"1973-03-15T21:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-15T21:42:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Mar-1973","startTime":"4:35 PM","endDate":"15-Mar-1973","endTime":"4:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On March 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:35 pm and 4:42 pm. 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(President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"410-025","nextCode":"410-027","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":1.88,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":5.87,"end":5.99,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":7.63,"end":7.75,"text":"Julie?"},{"start":9.07,"end":13.78,"text":"Well, how's the weather?"},{"start":13.91,"end":20.66,"text":"What do you think?"},{"start":20.68,"end":24.85,"text":"What's your view as to whether maybe I should come down?"},{"start":26.13,"end":27.93,"text":"I've got a whole year's note on Taylor and something."},{"start":27.95,"end":29.01,"text":"Some of the information, the information's out there."},{"start":29.03,"end":29.75,"text":"He wanted to make them ahead of him."},{"start":30.12,"end":39.42,"text":"But he was too low ranked, and he didn't want to jump together with people until he wanted to do it."},{"start":39.44,"end":46.05,"text":"So he sure, his ambition was to be the head of the city, the service of the city."},{"start":46.07,"end":46.27,"text":"But, yeah."},{"start":46.63,"end":48.15,"text":"The other story on paper, though, is not this."},{"start":48.17,"end":48.31,"text":"I know."},{"start":48.72,"end":63.05,"text":"uh..."},{"start":65.12,"end":88.68,"text":"Wow."},{"start":92.72,"end":103.06,"text":"His move, basically, to this other position gives him a much better chance to get that job than in this day and age."},{"start":103.08,"end":109.94,"text":"You see, this is the particular services and countervailing and border control and a lot of other things."},{"start":109.96,"end":116.55,"text":"And the man who goes to the top has to have a much broader experience than he was in the presidential presidency."},{"start":116.57,"end":117.77,"text":"That was his choice."},{"start":118,"end":131.14,"text":"We wanted him to be a doctor, but he had not been in the field in recent years, and he felt the analogs would be pretty cool about this, and he said he would prefer"},{"start":133.66,"end":140.59,"text":"and go up, and these guys were all apparently buried."},{"start":140.61,"end":144.18,"text":"He was not asking him to do the job."},{"start":144.68,"end":149.24,"text":"In fact, he urged not to take the job here in Washington."},{"start":149.26,"end":157.13,"text":"He thought that by getting the speed of his circumstances and getting the preparation he wanted, and his records would go up, so that's the way it worked."},{"start":157.15,"end":161.38,"text":"They really checked into it, we will, but we're both, Taylor is going to,"},{"start":161.88,"end":168.97,"text":"We're all for it."},{"start":169.71,"end":175.79,"text":"We'll be here four years."},{"start":176.32,"end":184.55,"text":"I'll have a chance to do a motion."},{"start":185.65,"end":187.83,"text":"We've had about a year."},{"start":188.29,"end":188.41,"text":"Great."},{"start":200.71,"end":208.12,"text":"It's too dark and cold."},{"start":208.64,"end":210.32,"text":"It's a lot of work to do here."},{"start":210.34,"end":212,"text":"A lot of people love doing this."},{"start":213.18,"end":214.44,"text":"A lot of people love doing this."},{"start":214.75,"end":216.11,"text":"Well, the things like the little ones."},{"start":216.13,"end":216.37,"text":"Like racing."},{"start":216.39,"end":217.99,"text":"Racing is like playing with flowers."},{"start":218.01,"end":220.89,"text":"Flowers going after you."},{"start":220.91,"end":222.23,"text":"It's great."},{"start":222.69,"end":226.5,"text":"We'll do it again someday."},{"start":226.68,"end":227.88,"text":"We can go to the hospital."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, engage in an informal discussion concerning the career advancement and professional aspirations of a mutual acquaintance named Taylor. They analyze Taylor's strategic career moves, specifically his preference for gaining broad experience in the field over accepting a high-level position in Washington. The conversation concludes with brief, casual remarks regarding leisure activities and future social plans.","topics":["Career advancement","Professional development","Family relations","Personnel management","Personal affairs"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:40:38.839Z"},"topicSlugs":["career-advancement","professional-development","family-relations","personnel-management","personal-affairs"],"audioDurationSec":239,"audioFiles":[{"file":"410-026.mp3","bytes":1665024,"durationSec":238.99,"bitrate":55736,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/410-026.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/410-026","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/410/conversation-410-026","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}