{"conversationCode":"410-035","tapeNumber":410,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-410-035","startDateTime":"1973-03-15T23:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-15T23:21:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Mar-1973","startTime":"6:20 PM","endDate":"15-Mar-1973","endTime":"6:21 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On March 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:20 pm to 6:21 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 410-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 410-35\n\nDate: March 15, 1973\nTime: 6:20 pm – 6:21 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-102]","filename":["410-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"410-034","nextCode":"410-036","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":3.48,"text":"Oh, I got it worked out."},{"start":3.54,"end":4.64,"text":"We'll leave at 11.30 tomorrow."},{"start":5.54,"end":6.38,"text":"Cabinet meeting."},{"start":16.8,"end":23.81,"text":"I may come back from there, but I may have to do something in South Carolina on Tuesday."},{"start":24.15,"end":26.67,"text":"You wouldn't have to participate, but I'll check."},{"start":26.69,"end":26.79,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":28.73,"end":28.98,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon briefly coordinate their upcoming schedules to align their travel plans for the following day. The President informs the First Lady of his intention to depart at 11:30 a.m. for a Cabinet meeting and mentions the possibility of an additional trip to South Carolina. They conclude the discussion by agreeing to verify whether the First Lady's presence is required for the potential South Carolina engagement.","topics":["scheduling","Pat Nixon","Cabinet meeting","travel logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:41:33.051Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","pat-nixon","cabinet-meeting","travel-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":38,"audioFiles":[{"file":"410-035.mp3","bytes":231424,"durationSec":37.88,"bitrate":48875,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/410-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/410-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/410/conversation-410-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}