{"conversationCode":"410-038","tapeNumber":410,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-410-038","startDateTime":"1973-03-15T23:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-15T23:28:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Mar-1973","startTime":"6:24 PM","endDate":"15-Mar-1973","endTime":"6:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On March 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:24 pm and 6:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 410-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 410-38\n\nDate: March 15, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 6:24 pm and 6:28 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-104]","filename":["410-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"410-037","nextCode":"410-039","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":3.98,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to facilitate an outgoing communication. This brief interaction served solely to establish a phone connection between the President and another party. No substantive policy matters or administrative decisions were documented during this short exchange.","topics":["White House communications","Presidential scheduling","Administrative operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:41:50.841Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-communications","presidential-scheduling","administrative-operations"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"410-038.mp3","bytes":49152,"durationSec":8.81,"bitrate":44616,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/410-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/410-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/410/conversation-410-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}