{"conversationCode":"411-003","tapeNumber":411,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-411-003","startDateTime":"1973-02-20T20:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-20T20:13:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:12 PM","endDate":"20-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:13 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:12 pm to 3:13 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 411-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 411-3\n\nDate: February 20, 1973\nTime: 3:12 pm - 3:13 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                               -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 411-19 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-117]","filename":["411-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"411-002","nextCode":"411-004","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":20.29,"text":"Oh, we're able to get the field for something."},{"start":20.31,"end":21.01,"text":"That's what I'm going to say again."},{"start":21.03,"end":22.21,"text":"I don't want the limitation of 10 minutes on the back line."},{"start":22.23,"end":22.93,"text":"That's what I'm going to say again."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly discuss logistical concerns regarding communication equipment, specifically expressing a desire to remove a ten-minute limitation on a 'back line.' The conversation focuses on ensuring the operational efficiency of the President’s telephone or recording infrastructure. No further substantive policy decisions were reached during this brief exchange.","topics":["Communication systems","White House operations","Logistics","Telecommunications","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:43:27.817Z"},"topicSlugs":["communication-systems","white-house-operations","logistics","telecommunications","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"411-003.mp3","bytes":227328,"durationSec":30.92,"bitrate":58817,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:35.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/411-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/411-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/411/conversation-411-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}