{"conversationCode":"411-006","tapeNumber":411,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-411-006","startDateTime":"1973-02-20T20:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-20T20:22:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:18 PM","endDate":"20-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, Peter J.;","description":"On February 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:18 pm to 3:22 pm. 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(President)","Brennan, Peter J."],"prevCode":"411-005","nextCode":"411-007","transcript":[{"start":0.32,"end":13.73,"text":"So, OPAC, we've got a little change of signals, a little arresting version."},{"start":13.75,"end":22,"text":"And basically, we have a little concentration test."},{"start":22.02,"end":22.76,"text":"We have a very full lead, Mr. Murray."},{"start":22.78,"end":24.94,"text":"In the afternoon, South Carolina, we're going to do a very, very, very, very short test."},{"start":24.96,"end":26,"text":"Henry is going to have a try to communicate with us."},{"start":31.94,"end":40.23,"text":"I do."},{"start":40.25,"end":58.13,"text":"In other words, I'll be on Monday, Tuesday, Monday."},{"start":58.15,"end":60.92,"text":"So what I thought, because Tuesday is actually, if that's not right for you, there's so much work to be done."},{"start":60.94,"end":61.58,"text":"I would say yes, we could do it."},{"start":61.95,"end":88.41,"text":"Well, I know that it's hard to get all this stuff together, but I mean, even though they're going to have to do it, it's going to be great."},{"start":88.43,"end":88.85,"text":"What's happened here?"},{"start":97.92,"end":119.37,"text":"We had quite a week, well I'd say quite a 10 days."},{"start":119.39,"end":119.73,"text":"Yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":119.75,"end":121.34,"text":"I don't think that Dave, the other person, had quite a perception of your life."},{"start":121.36,"end":121.62,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":121.64,"end":121.9,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":121.92,"end":122.18,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":122.2,"end":122.46,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":122.48,"end":122.74,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":122.76,"end":123.02,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":123.04,"end":123.3,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":123.32,"end":123.58,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":123.6,"end":123.86,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":123.88,"end":124.14,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":124.16,"end":124.42,"text":"Do you agree?"},{"start":124.91,"end":144.26,"text":"Too many people now are saying, oh, we're trying to do something about it."},{"start":144.28,"end":145.2,"text":"We're going to bring it back to the prisoners."},{"start":145.22,"end":145.7,"text":"That's what we're doing."},{"start":145.72,"end":146.64,"text":"We're going to bring it back to the prisoners."},{"start":146.66,"end":147.14,"text":"That's what we're doing."},{"start":147.16,"end":147.86,"text":"We've got to do something about it."},{"start":147.88,"end":148.59,"text":"We've got to do something about it."},{"start":150.76,"end":171.61,"text":"We have talked to them."},{"start":171.63,"end":171.85,"text":"Nobody has."},{"start":171.87,"end":172.25,"text":"Nobody said a word."},{"start":172.27,"end":173.03,"text":"There are kids going on and on and on."},{"start":173.05,"end":173.4,"text":"I think they are."},{"start":173.41,"end":174.02,"text":"Even more than that, you know."},{"start":174.04,"end":174.44,"text":"I've suffered a lot."},{"start":174.46,"end":175.44,"text":"I've been in my mom's area of time several times."},{"start":175.46,"end":176.44,"text":"I've been in my mom's area of time several times."},{"start":176.46,"end":177.44,"text":"I've been in my mom's area of time several times."},{"start":182.52,"end":188.55,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":189.18,"end":189.44,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Secretary of Labor Peter J. Brennan to discuss administrative scheduling and the coordination of departmental activities. The discussion touched upon the heavy workload facing the administration and the need to streamline internal communications and test procedures. Additionally, the President briefly emphasized the importance of addressing the status and welfare of prisoners, suggesting a need for increased attention toward this issue.","topics":["Labor Department","Administrative Scheduling","Prisoners of War","Government Communication","Workload Management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:43:45.102Z"},"topicSlugs":["labor-department","administrative-scheduling","prisoners-of-war","government-communication","workload-management"],"audioDurationSec":194,"audioFiles":[{"file":"411-006.mp3","bytes":1495040,"durationSec":194.35,"bitrate":61541,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:35.663Z","transcriptGapSeconds":106,"transcriptGapShare":0.55,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/411-006.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/411-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/411/conversation-411-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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