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Conversation 412-005

TapeTape 412StartWednesday, February 14, 1973 at 2:59 PMEndWednesday, February 14, 1973 at 3:04 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Timmons, William E.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
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President Nixon and legislative liaison William E. Timmons discuss the strategic timing for upcoming congressional sessions and managing Republican congressional relations. The conversation touches upon the sensitivities of maintaining party discipline and avoiding personal embarrassment for specific members during political maneuvers. The President ultimately tasks Timmons with exercising discretion in handling these delicate legislative and personnel matters.

Congressional relationsLegislative strategyRepublican PartyPolitical managementWilliam E. Timmons
AudioNARA Description

On February 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:59 pm to 3:04 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 412-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 412-5

Date: February 14, 1973
Time: Between 2:59 pm and 3:04 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with William E. Timmons.

[See Conversation No. 43-81]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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So, Bill, in regard to that resumption for the Congress and so forth, you feel that it should be next week, right?
Yeah.
Now, in terms of time, we can go to perhaps the next one.
Okay, let me ask you, on your list, I'd rather suggest that I'd like you to, as far as the Republicans are concerned, pretty much, pretty cleverly, you know, you don't need to come up with a plan straight away.
Well, depending upon, in other words, particularly depending upon whether you're running, say my client, they call it whiteness, which I've not followed, but it's important to know.
And would you say, I think it's a whole decade for those to run out of whiteness.
In other words, you've got some people that are very strong personally.
Yeah.
And I don't want to mention the fact that they have supported their personal embarrassments.
Huh?
And of course, you know, they've got some people like that, you know, Andrew and Richard and Zach.
I don't think, for example, that we can have a person come in here and say, yeah, yeah, in fact, well, not have to do it, not have to do it, but I don't think we can have sex.
I think that the one statement was so far that it made it a little embarrassing.
On the other hand, it made it a little embarrassing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, of course, we'll have sex with the church services when we have them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
I really, I'm sorry.
We don't want to move here.
But, on this one, you can see the owners are really just fighting for that.
I read it on the air.
Yeah.
No, you can't do that.
I'm trying to figure it out.
I can sort it out on my own.
I'm trying to figure it out.
All right, bye.
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