{"conversationCode":"413-006","tapeNumber":413,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-413-006","startDateTime":"1973-02-23T20:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-23T20:03:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:02 PM","endDate":"23-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:02 pm to 3:03 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 413-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 413-6\n\nDate: February 23, 1973\nTime: 3:02 pm-3:03 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-184]","filename":["413-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"413-005","nextCode":"413-007","transcript":[{"start":0.15,"end":19.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":19.87,"end":22.16,"text":"Kate, one point I wanted to make, is that, uh, you know, we've been talking about this for a very, very long time."},{"start":22.18,"end":25.7,"text":"Rather than, I'm sorry, this morning, that Kate, the member from the press, uh, I haven't seen her in the theater, and, uh, and of course, I've required her to be on this team."},{"start":25.72,"end":27.84,"text":"Now, uh, under no circumstances in the future, when I go to the theater, are we going to switch on the TV?"},{"start":27.86,"end":27.98,"text":"Right?"},{"start":28,"end":28.96,"text":"I don't know how that's ever happened to people."},{"start":28.98,"end":29.36,"text":"That's not my rule."},{"start":29.34,"end":48.71,"text":"If they want to go, they stand in the back."},{"start":48.73,"end":49.11,"text":"How does it happen?"},{"start":49.13,"end":49.7,"text":"Do they check that with you?"},{"start":49.72,"end":49.96,"text":"No, I don't."},{"start":49.98,"end":51.2,"text":"I take people out, and I'm like, let me go away by this time."},{"start":51.22,"end":51.8,"text":"I don't have to deal with it."},{"start":51.82,"end":52.5,"text":"Just tell them not to do it, then."},{"start":52.52,"end":52.96,"text":"I don't want to do it."},{"start":52.98,"end":53.42,"text":"I don't want to do it."},{"start":53.44,"end":53.88,"text":"I don't want to do it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to issue a strict directive regarding protocol during his visits to the White House theater. The President expressed frustration over unauthorized television use and the presence of press members, specifically a reporter named Kate, during these private viewings. He ordered Bull to ensure that such intrusions are prohibited in the future, stipulating that any permitted guests must stand in the back and that television sets must remain off.","topics":["White House protocol","Television usage","Media access","Executive directives","Presidential privacy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:46:30.868Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-protocol","television-usage","media-access","executive-directives","presidential-privacy"],"audioDurationSec":61,"audioFiles":[{"file":"413-006.mp3","bytes":370688,"durationSec":60.95,"bitrate":48657,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","transcriptGapSeconds":39,"transcriptGapShare":0.64,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/413-006.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/413-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/413/conversation-413-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}