{"conversationCode":"413-012","tapeNumber":413,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-413-012","startDateTime":"1973-02-23T20:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-23T20:27:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:26 PM","endDate":"23-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hébert, F. Edward;","description":"On February 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and F. Edward Hébert met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:26 pm to 3:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 413-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 413-12\n\nDate: February 23, 1973\nTime: Between 3:26 pm and 3:27 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with F. Edward Hébert.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-190]","filename":["413-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hébert, F. Edward"],"prevCode":"413-011","nextCode":"413-013","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":21.29,"text":"So, that matter you talked to me about, is it worked out?"},{"start":21.31,"end":24.17,"text":"Well, actually, well, I told her, or I heard from her, but I just wanted to make sure that you know that he gets it out and he gets his credit."},{"start":24.19,"end":26.38,"text":"And it always comes up because the CIA has a great command, so I don't know if it's a personal matter or not."},{"start":27.01,"end":48.8,"text":"A lot of it happened because I had to get some blood delivered."},{"start":48.82,"end":51.03,"text":"I don't know that, but it wouldn't have, let me say, if it ever got to me, it would have triggered that first."},{"start":51.05,"end":51.15,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":51.17,"end":51.85,"text":"But let me say, it's all done now."},{"start":51.87,"end":52.59,"text":"I'll find some people and off we go."},{"start":52.61,"end":52.73,"text":"Great."},{"start":52.75,"end":52.87,"text":"Great."},{"start":52.89,"end":53.59,"text":"We were out here at the right time."},{"start":53.61,"end":53.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":53.73,"end":54.89,"text":"Well, we didn't hurt any of the people that weren't there."},{"start":54.91,"end":55.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":55.87,"end":58.62,"text":"Good."},{"start":58.64,"end":64.52,"text":"That's good."},{"start":64.54,"end":65.12,"text":"We'll have that one day, huh?"},{"start":65.14,"end":65.35,"text":"Okay, bud."},{"start":65.37,"end":65.53,"text":"Bye-bye."},{"start":65.55,"end":65.63,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Representative F. Edward Hébert met briefly to follow up on the resolution of an unspecified personnel or procedural matter. The participants confirmed that the issue had been successfully settled and that appropriate credit would be granted. The conversation concludes with a brief, cryptic remark regarding the successful handling of the situation without collateral impact on uninvolved parties.","topics":["Personnel management","Political coordination","Legislative relations","F. Edward Hébert","Administrative procedure"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:47:04.683Z"},"topicSlugs":["personnel-management","political-coordination","legislative-relations","f-edward-h-bert","administrative-procedure"],"audioDurationSec":72,"audioFiles":[{"file":"413-012.mp3","bytes":446464,"durationSec":72.15,"bitrate":49506,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","transcriptGapSeconds":43,"transcriptGapShare":0.59,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/413-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/413-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/413/conversation-413-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}