{"conversationCode":"413-013","tapeNumber":413,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-413-013","startDateTime":"1973-02-23T20:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-23T20:32:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:29 PM","endDate":"23-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bush, George H. W.;","description":"On February 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and George H. W. Bush met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:29 pm to 3:32 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 413-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 413-13\n\nDate: February 23, 1973\nTime: 3:29 pm-3:32 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with George H. W. Bush.\n\n[See Conversation No. 43-191]","filename":["413-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bush, George H. W."],"prevCode":"413-012","nextCode":"413-014","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":22.27,"text":"So, yeah."},{"start":22.29,"end":22.41,"text":"Right."},{"start":22.43,"end":26.78,"text":"I had nothing to do with it, but it occurred to me when I spoke to the legislature, I noticed a couple of very attractive women, both in public and in the legislature, and one good woman, I spoke to her again about it"},{"start":30.07,"end":55.32,"text":"So if you've got that in mind,"},{"start":56.85,"end":79.65,"text":"And if you'll talk to Terry about it with me, he'll tell you how they probably plan on it."},{"start":79.67,"end":81.38,"text":"I don't know how they did, but these are two of the great lights that I've ever seen."},{"start":81.4,"end":82.04,"text":"And boy, they look good on them."},{"start":82.06,"end":82.18,"text":"Right?"},{"start":82.2,"end":83.22,"text":"And they don't need to be the demographic speakers."},{"start":83.24,"end":84.18,"text":"They're going to be the best ones in the house."},{"start":84.2,"end":84.66,"text":"I said, Michael's fine."},{"start":84.68,"end":84.96,"text":"He's a friend."},{"start":84.98,"end":85.84,"text":"I said, well, I could give him two of them."},{"start":85.86,"end":86.18,"text":"That'd be great."},{"start":90.48,"end":110.36,"text":"We didn't, we didn't knock, we didn't throw the ground."},{"start":110.38,"end":110.58,"text":"All right."},{"start":110.6,"end":110.98,"text":"All right, hold on."},{"start":111,"end":111.1,"text":"Okay."},{"start":111.12,"end":111.88,"text":"Good, you're getting a good reception."},{"start":111.9,"end":112,"text":"Okay."},{"start":112.02,"end":112.42,"text":"It's a rocker still."},{"start":115.66,"end":126.8,"text":"We are spending a lot of money."},{"start":126.82,"end":127.53,"text":"We're spending twice as much today."},{"start":127.55,"end":128.27,"text":"That's just an awful lot of dollars."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and RNC Chairman George H.W. Bush discuss personnel recommendations and the recruitment of prospective speakers for Republican Party efforts. The brief exchange touches on the selection of qualified women for representative roles and acknowledges current party spending concerns. Bush confirms that he is receiving a positive reception as he continues to manage the organization's financial and outreach strategies.","topics":["Republican National Committee","Political appointments","Party finances","Public relations","Personnel recruitment"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:47:10.193Z"},"topicSlugs":["republican-national-committee","political-appointments","party-finances","public-relations","personnel-recruitment"],"audioDurationSec":143,"audioFiles":[{"file":"413-013.mp3","bytes":872448,"durationSec":142.56,"bitrate":48958,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","transcriptGapSeconds":90,"transcriptGapShare":0.63,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/413-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/413-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/413/conversation-413-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}