Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 414-004 Date: Wednesday, February 28, 1973 at 3:30 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/414-004 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:04] What's he like? [0:29] What's his rank? [0:34] the National Chairman of the Republican Governors Association. [0:48] She has to be on my right. [0:51] But Mrs. Mandel, do you want Mandel to do [1:05] We've had rock and roll, and I don't want them again. [1:19] I don't want them again. [1:24] I don't want them again. [1:31] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [2:01] . [2:02] . [2:03] . [2:03] . [2:09] . [2:10] . [2:10] . [2:12] . [2:14] . [2:15] . [2:15] . [2:30] Except for the two ranking ones, the wives can be scattered. [2:57] You might find they don't have to be at the table, but the ranking ones. [3:04] So that bond is fine. [3:07] And that was fine. [3:11] No, no, no. [3:12] We have bonds. [3:19] We have bonds. [3:23] That's two. [3:24] And of course, we have . [3:26] We have bonds. [3:27] I've already got West. [3:32] Mrs. Holton. [3:34] Get out again. [3:35] How many governors have you got? [3:40] You've got Holton. [3:41] No. [3:41] You've got West. [3:44] You've got West. [3:47] I have three governors. [3:48] Plus two wives. [3:49] That makes me... We have Mrs. Holton and Mrs. Mandel. [3:57] uh, will be the two waters that I have to have there. [4:03] Now, now you're putting, uh, uh, you see, you can only have four men. [4:08] So who are, who are the men you're going to put? [4:11] You only have Evans, Bond, and West, so far. [4:18] Evans, Bond, West, Bond. [4:20] You're like Governor Love. [4:21] That's what I'm going to tell you. [4:27] What other women do you know who they are? [4:32] Mrs. Mandel and Mrs. Fulton. [4:35] Well, I'll tell you. [4:38] Just so that you can feel it then. [4:42] Just put their... Would you need two more women? [4:48] We'll need one more woman, sir. [4:51] Oh, you've got three? [4:53] Yes. [4:54] Mrs. Mandel. [4:55] And this is Horton. [4:58] Who's the other? [5:01] Oh, there it is. [5:01] This is Dunn. [5:05] Dunn, yeah. [5:09] Governor Vandell, Governor Horton. [5:14] All of you, the only ones where you have the men in the right of the court, then you've got Governor Dunn right. [5:21] You just have the same. [5:23] Four governors. [5:26] Yeah. [5:26] Four governors and three wives. [5:31] So she needs three governors and four wives. [5:36] Four governors. [5:37] I need three governors. [5:40] She'll need four governors. [5:42] I'm sorry, I may have confused the issue. [5:44] At your table, we had governors Evans, Vaughn, West, and Eskey. [5:51] We have the wives of those. [5:52] That won't work. [5:53] That gets five men at my table and three women, so that won't work. [6:02] Okay. [6:02] You can only have four men at each table and four women at each table. [6:06] You've got to can one of those. [6:08] So what do you have? [6:11] Your table, then. [6:13] Governor Bond. [6:15] Governor West, that's all right. [6:19] Rather than Bond, I'd have him done. [6:24] And then over at Mrs. Nixon's table, we have Mrs. in the blue eyes. [6:51] And then the governor is with Mrs. Nixon. [6:57] Yeah, she has . [7:10] What event real quick coming today is the birth of Mr. Schultz . [7:20] Make it about 4.15. [7:23] They have a court. [7:24] But I got to work on some of the parts here. [7:29] So 415, we were lost. [7:30] Yeah, 415, I'll be able to go outside of that.