{"conversationCode":"414-005","tapeNumber":414,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-414-005","startDateTime":"1973-02-28T20:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-28T21:22:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:43 PM","endDate":"28-Feb-1973","endTime":"4:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On February 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 4:22 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 414-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 414-5\n\nDate: February 28, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:43 pm and 4:22 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person.\n\n       Analysis\n              -Statistics","filename":["414-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"414-004","nextCode":"414-006","transcript":[{"start":0.44,"end":25.8,"text":"I wanted to, just while I'm thinking of it, in that analysis you're doing, I particularly want you to make that analysis of the ."},{"start":25.82,"end":29.8,"text":"Now, I'll tell you, give me a figure as to how many"},{"start":30.59,"end":31.34,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unidentified individual to discuss the preparation of a specific statistical analysis. During the brief exchange, Nixon emphasized the importance of this report and requested that the individual provide concrete figures regarding a particular, albeit redacted, subject matter. This request highlights the President's direct oversight of administrative data collection and analysis efforts during this period.","topics":["Data analysis","Presidential directives","Statistics","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:50:11.865Z"},"topicSlugs":["data-analysis","presidential-directives","statistics","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"414-005.mp3","bytes":241664,"durationSec":36.41,"bitrate":53093,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/414-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/414-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/414/conversation-414-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}