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Nixon & Brennan on Economic policy and Labor relations

Friday, March 2, 1973 · 9:24 AM–9:27 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, Peter J.Conversation414-009 on Tape 414StartFriday, March 2, 1973 at 9:24 AMEndFriday, March 2, 1973 at 9:27 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 414-009 ↗

President Nixon met with Secretary of Labor Peter J. Brennan to discuss current political optics and personnel management strategies. The dialogue centered on the administration's approach to labor and economic leaders, specifically regarding the handling of individuals like Shelton and the broader implications of currency fluctuations. The discussion concluded with the President indicating a relaxed stance toward certain administrative staffers, suggesting a desire to move past recent controversies.

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Hello.
Do you have any other stuff you want to... Oh, yeah.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, but... Oh, yeah.
What about the...
I think we might get something on the dollar business.
Yeah.
Why did you ask Shelton?
I mean, we had him here already.
Yeah, that's good.
That's a good way to handle those.
Yeah, yeah, I said so too, yeah.
The old Ruckus, huh?
Who is it?
Who is it?
I'm scared of the people who predicted the other Ruckus, huh?
Daughter?
Wife?
Was she a woman's liver?
Right, I didn't know that.
The what?
Good God.
Martha didn't like it all on the elephant.
I think I'll just let them all go.
Because basically, yeah, you could say, well, they're here.
Okay, fine.
They want to think you could check the dollar.
So what else do you want to do?

On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:24 am to 9:27 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 414-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 414-9

Date: March 2, 1973
Time: Between 9:24 am and 9:27 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Patrick J. Buchanan.

[See Conversation No. 37-27]
  • 037-027 9:24 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan talked on the telephone from 9:24 am to 9:27 am.
  • 414-010 9:24 AM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:24 am and 9:27 am.
  • 414-011 9:24 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:24 am and 9:27 am.
  • 037-028 9:27 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:27 am and 9:31 am.
  • 037-029 9:31 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. talked on the telephone from 9:31 am to 9:38 am.
  • 414-012 9:31 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:31 am to 9:38 am.
  • 414-013 9:40 AM · 36 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:40 am to 10:25 am.
  • 414-014 10:25 AM · 39 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:25 am and 11:00 am.

Conversation 414-009, March 2, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/414-009 (accessed October 1, 2026).