{"conversationCode":"415-003","tapeNumber":415,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-415-003","startDateTime":"1973-02-25T19:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-25T19:21:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Feb-1973","startTime":"2:08 PM","endDate":"25-Feb-1973","endTime":"2:21 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On February 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:08 pm and 2:21 pm. 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Safire\n              -Preparation of material\n              -Departure\n                     -Use of time\n\n       President's meeting with Norman Vincent Peale\n\n       Debbie Reynolds\n\n       New York theater\n            -New York Times, New York Daily News\n            -Theater critics\n            -Irene musical show [?]\n            -Choreography\n\n       Safire\n                -Henry Brandon\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN-T-MDR-\n2014-019. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 05/08/2019. Archivist: DR]\n[National Security]\n[415-003-w001]\n[Duration: 9s]\n\f                                              -3-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n      UNITED KINGDOM\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n      North Vietnam\n\n      William H. Sullivan [or William C. Sullivan] [?]\n\n      1968\n\n      Sullivan [?]\n\n      Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]\n\n      Testimony\n            -Washington Star\n                  -[Subpoenas] [?]\n\n      [First name unknown] Johnson\n\n      Broadcast\n            -Nation\n                    -Camp David\n            -Live event\n            -Time of day\n            -Camp David\n            -Investigation of possibilities","filename":["415-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"415-002","nextCode":"415-004","transcript":[{"start":3.17,"end":29.48,"text":"What I intend to get in is an account, because I can call John and find out."},{"start":29.5,"end":30.88,"text":"But the Sapphire Award doesn't show up for us, so it doesn't help us."},{"start":30.9,"end":31.12,"text":"Let us see."},{"start":31.14,"end":31.36,"text":"Let us see."},{"start":31.38,"end":31.6,"text":"Let us see."},{"start":31.62,"end":31.84,"text":"Let us see."},{"start":33.59,"end":61.68,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":64.24,"end":79.09,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":103.34,"end":109.3,"text":"Okay."},{"start":138.44,"end":161.11,"text":"Okay."},{"start":169.49,"end":185.96,"text":"... ... ... ..."},{"start":203.63,"end":230.94,"text":"... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":237.72,"end":262.64,"text":"What I don't like about it"},{"start":278.62,"end":303.4,"text":"All right."},{"start":325.97,"end":353.51,"text":"What?"},{"start":355.03,"end":382.49,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":382.5,"end":382.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":382.62,"end":382.9,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":382.93,"end":383.02,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":383.05,"end":383.47,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":383.49,"end":383.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":392.93,"end":412.32,"text":"All right."},{"start":412.34,"end":413.25,"text":"Don't raise your hand if you like it lighter."},{"start":413.26,"end":413.83,"text":"I know that you can do this."},{"start":433.7,"end":445.8,"text":"I think they're a little excited."},{"start":463.45,"end":482.52,"text":"Let's feel that out this way."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to discuss a variety of administrative and personal matters, including staff transitions for William Safire and potential social or cultural engagements. The conversation also touched upon broader governmental concerns, such as the ongoing investigation into North Vietnam, the FBI, and media-related subpoena issues. The participants weighed logistics for a possible live broadcast from Camp David while navigating sensitive national security discussions regarding the United Kingdom.","topics":["William Safire","Camp David","North Vietnam","FBI","Media Relations","National Security"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:51:27.995Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-safire","camp-david","north-vietnam","fbi","media-relations","national-security"],"audioDurationSec":493,"audioFiles":[{"file":"415-003.mp3","bytes":2433024,"durationSec":493.23,"bitrate":39462,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:36.364Z","transcriptGapSeconds":264,"transcriptGapShare":0.54,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/415-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/415-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/415/conversation-415-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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