{"conversationCode":"415-030","tapeNumber":415,"conversationNumber":30,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-415-030","startDateTime":"1973-02-27T19:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-27T19:48:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Feb-1973","startTime":"2:12 PM","endDate":"27-Feb-1973","endTime":"2:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On February 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:12 pm and 2:48 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 415-030 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 415-30\n\nDate: February 27, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:12 pm and 2:48 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person (in Henry A. Kissinger's office?).\n\n       News on Vietnam settlement\n             -Paris\n             -Precedents\n                    -Public statement\n             -William P. Rogers\n                    -Publicity\n             -Hero status\n             -Message for Ellsworth F. Bunker\n\f                     -40-\n\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n -Nguyen Van Thieu","filename":["415-030.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"415-029","nextCode":"416-001","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":28.28,"text":"."},{"start":28.3,"end":28.32,"text":"."},{"start":28.34,"end":28.36,"text":"."},{"start":28.38,"end":28.4,"text":"."},{"start":28.42,"end":28.44,"text":"."},{"start":28.46,"end":28.48,"text":"."},{"start":28.5,"end":28.52,"text":"."},{"start":28.54,"end":28.56,"text":"."},{"start":28.58,"end":28.6,"text":"."},{"start":28.62,"end":28.64,"text":"."},{"start":47.96,"end":76.03,"text":"Well, they're playing out there."},{"start":76.05,"end":76.17,"text":"Right."},{"start":76.19,"end":76.31,"text":"Right."},{"start":84.44,"end":99.56,"text":"Okay, and then I think we want to get a very strong message from her."},{"start":99.58,"end":101.44,"text":"Okay, I think that's it."},{"start":101.46,"end":105.36,"text":"We're going to have to try to get a lot of attention."},{"start":105.38,"end":105.64,"text":"That's right."},{"start":106.62,"end":108.41,"text":"We're going to have to try to get a lot of attention."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unknown individual to discuss the administration’s strategy for managing the public perception of the recent Vietnam peace settlement. The conversation focused on establishing a narrative around the agreement, including the role of Secretary of State William P. Rogers and the importance of crafting specific messaging for Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker and South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu. The participants emphasized the need to generate significant public attention and secure support for the deal’s diplomatic precedents.","topics":["Vietnam War","Paris Peace Accords","Public Relations","William P. Rogers","Ellsworth Bunker","Nguyen Van Thieu","Foreign Policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:54:07.913Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","paris-peace-accords","public-relations","william-p-rogers","ellsworth-bunker","nguyen-van-thieu","foreign-policy"],"audioDurationSec":119,"audioFiles":[{"file":"415-030.mp3","bytes":630784,"durationSec":118.55,"bitrate":42567,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:36.368Z","transcriptGapSeconds":71,"transcriptGapShare":0.6,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/415-030.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/415-030","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/415/conversation-415-030","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}