{"conversationCode":"417-005","tapeNumber":417,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-417-005","startDateTime":"1973-03-05T20:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-05T20:26:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Mar-1973","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"5-Mar-1973","endTime":"3:26 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:25 pm to 3:26 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 417-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 417-5\n\f                                               -10-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 417-24 (cont’d)\n\nDate: March 5, 1973\nTime: 3:26 pm - 3:27 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 37-53]","filename":["417-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"417-004","nextCode":"417-006","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":19.71,"text":"So, what did you find out from Rogers that she... Bye."},{"start":19.73,"end":20.15,"text":"I'm sorry, I'm sorry."},{"start":20.17,"end":20.93,"text":"You didn't ask me on it for that time."},{"start":20.95,"end":21.07,"text":"Right."},{"start":21.09,"end":21.31,"text":"There, bye."},{"start":36.36,"end":51.22,"text":"All right, I'll call you back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull to follow up on information gathered from an individual referred to as Rogers. The brief exchange primarily served as a status check regarding a prior inquiry or assignment. No definitive policy decisions were reached, as the conversation concluded with an agreement for Bull to provide a follow-up call.","topics":["Stephen B. Bull","Information gathering","Administrative coordination","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:59:34.160Z"},"topicSlugs":["stephen-b-bull","information-gathering","administrative-coordination","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":56,"audioFiles":[{"file":"417-005.mp3","bytes":303104,"durationSec":56.03,"bitrate":43279,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:36.748Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/417-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/417-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/417/conversation-417-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}