{"conversationCode":"417-009","tapeNumber":417,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-417-009","startDateTime":"1973-03-05T20:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-05T20:34:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Mar-1973","startTime":"3:33 PM","endDate":"5-Mar-1973","endTime":"3:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:33 pm to 3:34 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 417-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 417-9\n\nDate: March 5, 1973\nTime: 3:33 pm - 3:34 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 37-57]","filename":["417-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"417-008","nextCode":"417-010","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":25.59,"text":"Yeah, I approved the plaque thing out there, so don't have to do it."},{"start":25.61,"end":26.33,"text":"The plaque is better than the other."},{"start":26.35,"end":27.09,"text":"And he's going to have people around."},{"start":27.11,"end":27.45,"text":"So, I don't know."},{"start":27.47,"end":27.73,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":27.75,"end":28.01,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":28.03,"end":28.29,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":28.31,"end":28.57,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":28.59,"end":28.85,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":28.87,"end":29.13,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":29.15,"end":29.41,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":30.37,"end":53.51,"text":"I don't know how."},{"start":53.53,"end":54.31,"text":"Workup, everything background material."},{"start":54.33,"end":55.01,"text":"Should be put on this, apparently."},{"start":55.03,"end":56.62,"text":"He's got to be Santa Maria, the, who is the head of the United States Congress."},{"start":57.12,"end":68.2,"text":"He is, as I've said, I'm not sure."},{"start":68.22,"end":68.54,"text":"I'm pretty sure."},{"start":68.56,"end":69.44,"text":"As I've said, he's going to have all of you."},{"start":69.46,"end":69.74,"text":"Sack of Maria."},{"start":69.76,"end":69.96,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull briefly discussed the approval of a plaque installation and the necessity of preparing comprehensive background materials for an upcoming engagement. The conversation touched upon the involvement of various staff members and referenced specific protocols regarding leadership figures in Congress. The brief exchange served to finalize administrative decisions regarding the President's public scheduling and documentation requirements.","topics":["White House administration","Scheduling","Public relations","Presidential protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:59:56.764Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","scheduling","public-relations","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":77,"audioFiles":[{"file":"417-009.mp3","bytes":415744,"durationSec":77.13,"bitrate":43119,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","transcriptGapSeconds":49,"transcriptGapShare":0.63,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/417-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/417-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/417/conversation-417-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}