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Start Date: 5-Mar-1973 4:50 PM

End Date: 5-Mar-1973 6:06 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

417-016a.mp3

417-016b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:50 pm to 6:06 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 417-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 417-16

Date: March 5, 1973
Time: 4:50 pm - 6:06 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       Newsweek article about Haldeman
            -Issuance
            -Jane Bruntley [?]
                     -Conversation with Haldeman at event
                            -Lunch with Newsweek people

       President's schedule
              -Kakuei Tanaka visit
                      -Date
                              -Henry A. Kissinger
              -Trips to California
                      -4th of July
                      -Labor Day
              -Patriotic holiday events
                      -Event related to Vietnam settlement
                      -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                              -Troops withdrawal
                      -Killed in action
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                    -Veterans
                    -Missing in action [MIAs]
            -Press conference
                    -Announcements
                           Final withdrawal of forces
                           -Format
                                    -Kissinger’s comment
            -Pittsburgh visit
                    -Return to Washington, DC
            -Nguyen Van Thieu's visit
                    -Kissinger
                    -President's location
                           -Return to Washington, DC
                    -Meeting on West Coast
            -Baseball game
            -California
                    -Palm Springs
                           -Weather
                    -Meetings
                           -Ronald W. Reagan
                           -Necessity
                           -Robert H. Finch
                    -Golf
                           -Palm Springs


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      President’s post-election schedule
             -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
             -Relaxation
             -California
             -Florida
             -July
             -May and June
                     -Weather
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     South Carolina
            -Harry S. Dent
            -Governorship
                   -Gen. William C. Westmoreland
                           -Candidate
                                  -Republican
                                  -Strengths
                                  -Compared to Capt. Jeremiah A. Denton, Jr.
                                  -Electability

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      Denton
               -POW survival
               -Adversity
                       -Impact on person
               -Revolutionary leaders [?]
               -Leadership
               -Letter to President
               -Character
                       -Thoughtfulness
                       -President’s analysis of Congress, governors
                       -Compared to White House staff
               -Letter to President
                       -Publicity
                       -Group of 100 [?]
                       -Release to public
                       -Cover letter for release
                               -Contents
                               -Recipients
                                       -Cabinet
                                       -Congress members
                                               -Number
                                       -Financial contributors
                                               -Maurice H. Stans
                                       -Frank L. Rizzo
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                             -Richard J. Daley
                             -Reagan
                             -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                             -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                             -George Meany
                             -Number
                                    -William J. Baroody, Jr.’s office [?]
                             -Howard K. Smith
                                    -Publisher
                             -Columnists
                             -Lists
              -Cover letter
              -Distribution
                      -Length of time
              -Letter’s remarkableness
POWs
       -Opportunity
       -Tour of White House
              -Capt. Jerry A. Singleton, Maj. Robert D. Jeffrey
              -Olin E. Teague
       -President's appearance
       -Tour
              -Wives’ attendance
              -Unscheduled meeting
              -Photographs
              -Press coverage
       -League of Families
              -Mrs. Jerry A. Singleton
                      -Leader
       -Meetings with President
              -Announcement
                      -POW Dinner at the White House
              -Denton
              -Uniform

Meetings on President's schedule
      -John D. Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Roy L. Ash
      -George P. Shultz
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                                                           Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



                      -Meetings with President
               -National Security Council [NSC]
               -Domestic Council
                      -Time of meeting
               -Congressional leaders meeting
                      -Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 4:50 pm and 6:06
pm.

[Conversation No. 417-16A]

       An unknown person's schedule

[End of telephone conversation]

       Congressional relations
             -An unknown person's schedule
                     -Congressional briefing
             -Congress member’s schedule

       Republican governors
             -Frequency of meetings with President
                    -News summary
             -Meetings with White House staff
                    -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
                    -Governors’ complaints
                    -Contrast with Spiro T. Agnew
                            -Lip service

       Agnew
               -Invitation to Camp David [?]
                       -Thieu [?]

       Congressional relations
             -Public relations [PR] operation
                     -Leaders meeting
             -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Raymond K. Price, Jr., Patrick J. Buchanan
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              -Louis P. Harris poll
              -Buchanan memo

Public relations [PR]
        Problems
               -Speeches
        -Radio speeches
               -Domestic issues
                       -Focus
               -Price’s view [?]
                       -Speeches at locations
               -Coverage
                       -Compared with South Carolina State Legislature speech
               -Value
               -Poll bounce [?]
               -Contrast with television [TV] speech
        -Crime speech
               -TV “out take”
                       -Length
                       -Value
                       -Difficulty for speechwriters
        -TV "out-take"
               -Usefulness
               -Preparation

President’s schedule
       -Congressional leaders’ meeting
       -Meeting with mayors
               -Frequency
               -Length
               -Planning
       -Meeting at State Department
       -Meetings with groups
               -Length
               -Simple comments by President
       -Meeting with mayors
               -Louis Welch
               -Lou Berg [?]
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                                                   Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



               -Pete Wilson
               -Al Tresek [?]
               -[First name unknown] Briggs [?]
               -[Unintelligible name]
               -[First name unknown] Finch
               -Amount of time
               -Scheduling
       -State Department lunch
       -Counselor’s meetings
       -Thomas G. Corcoran
       -Mayors
               -Time
               -Location
                       -Cabinet Room

Ehrlichman
       -Schedule
              -Burden
       -Need for time for reflection
       -Number of meetings
       -Tiredness
       -Meeting with President

Public relations
        -Access to President
               -Congress, mayors
        -Control over message

President's schedule
       -Meetings
               -Cabinet
               -Counselors
               -Scheduling
               -Frequency
               -Publicity
               -Domestic Council
               -Economic advisory groups
                      -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
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                                                                 Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



             -Compared with Dwight D. Eisenhower's schedule
                   -Frequency of meetings
                   -National Security Council [NSC]
                   -Cabinet
                   -Compared to President’s administration
                          -Counselors
                          -Economic committees
                          -NSC
                          -Domestic Council
                          -Cabinet
             -Domestic Council
                   -Compared to Cabinet

      Ehrlichman
             -Burden of work
             -Interviews
                     -U.S. News and World Report
                     -Reduction in number
                     -Editorial boards
             -Briefings
             -Meetings
                     -Spokesman for President
                     -Compared to Kissinger
                     -President’s experience as vice president
                             -Expectations when President
             -Burden of work
             -Subordinates
                     -Cole
             -Ability to “wing it”

      Ash
             -Abilities
             -Satisfaction with job
                     -Sense of challenge
                     -Changes in work
                            -Compared to Elliot L. Richardson, Caspar W. (“Cap”)
Weinberger
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                                  Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



Ehrlichman
       -Burden of work
       -Value
       -Congressional work
              -Importance
              -Difficulties
       -Work with governors, mayors
              -Difficulties
       -Compared with William E. Timmons
              -Organization

Timmons
     -Compared with Clark MacGregor, Bryce N. Harlow
           -Congressional relations
                  -Meetings with President
           -MacGregors’s career in Congress
                  -Compared to Scott, Ford

George H. W. Bush [?]
      -Defense job

Congressional relations
      -President’s meeting with Scott, Ford
      -Timmons
              -Qualities

Dinners
       -Value

Reagan
      -Meetings with President
      -Possible candidacy for president

Nelson A. Rockefeller
       -Ideas

President's schedule
       -Social events
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                            Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



                     -Frequency
             -Tiredness
             -Golf
             -Dinners
                     -Private, working
             -Social events
                     -California
                             -Reagan
                             -William P. Rogers, Kissinger
                             -Secretaries
                             -Problems
                                     -Invitations
                                             -Reagan, Robert H. Finch, Samuel W. Yorty
             -California visits
                     -Florida visits
                             -Bill Pauley [sp?]
                             -Palm Springs
                     -Problems
             -Meetings with governors


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             -Jack and Helene (Colesie) Drown
                    -Visit to California
                            -Problems

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      President's forthcoming visit to California
             -Compared to Florida visit
             -Schedule of meetings
                      -Activities
                              -John Ford dinner
                              -Nguyen Van Thieu’s visit
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             Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
             -Palm Springs


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             -Vacation days
                    -President’s activities
                           -Signatures
                           -Telephone calls
                                   -George P. Shultz
                                   -Ash, Ehrlichman
                                   -Congress members

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      President's schedule for California trips
             -Thieu’s visit
             -Morning work
             -Activities
                     -Ronald L. Ziegler
                     -Coordination
             -Working vacation
             -Meetings in California
                     -Weinberger
                     -Advisability
                     -Purpose
             -Publicity
                     -President’s activities

      President’s schedule
             -Time off
                     -Compared to Congress
                     -Public reaction
             -Amount of work
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                                                                           Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



                 -Time in Washington, DC
                         -Criticism
                                 -Answer
                 -Public events
                         -Dedication
                         -Baseball games
                                 -July
                 -Social events
                         -Lunch, dinner, reception for an individual
                         -Problems
                                 -Official compared with personal functions
                                         -Invitations
                                                 -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
                 -Activities
                         -Golf
                         -Walking
                                 -Security [?]


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                                                               Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)



       President’s second term in office
              -Problem
                      -Compared to Dwight D. Eisenhower
                             -1958 recession
                                      -Impact on popularity
                             -War
              -Public support for President
                      -President's personal popularity
                             -Affection
                             -Constitutional battle [?]
                      -Eisenhower

       Republican Party
             -Barry M. Goldwater
                     -Goldwaterites
                           -Buchanan’s analysis

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:50 pm.

       President’s schedule

       Delivery

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:06 pm.

       Republican Party
             -Conservatives
                     -President’s problems satisfying
                            -Buchanan’s underestimation
                            -Bombing
                            -James L. Buckley
                            -Courts, judicial appointments
                            -Domestic policy
                                    -Busing program
                            -Taxation compared with budget cuts
                                    -Congress
                                    -Press stories
                                            -Portrayal of administration’s actions
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                                                            Conversation No. 417-16 (cont’d)




       Public relations
               -TV
               -Press conference
                       -Performance
                       -Political Right [?]
                       -President’s travels
               -Transformation by TV
               -Press coverage of events
               -Lyndon B. Johnson
               -Buchanan

Haldeman left at 6:06 pm.



Conversation No. 417-25

Date: March 5, 1973
Time: Unknown between 6:06 pm, March 5 and 2:31 pm, March 7
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with an unknown person.


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       Greeting

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The unknown person left at an unknown time before 2:31 pm, March 7, 1973.
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