{"conversationCode":"422-031","tapeNumber":422,"conversationNumber":31,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-422-031","startDateTime":"1973-03-22T18:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-22T18:55:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Mar-1973","startTime":"1:52 PM","endDate":"22-Mar-1973","endTime":"1:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.;","description":"On March 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:52 pm to 1:55 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 422-031 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 422-031\n\nDate: March 22, 1973\nTime: 1:52 pm - 1:55 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with William P. Rogers.\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n[Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number\nLPRN-T-MDR-2014-019. Segment declassified on 09/12/2018. Archivist: DR]\n[National Security]\n[422-031-w001]\n[Duration: 1m 6s]\n\n[See Conversation No. 044-008]\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["422-031.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rogers, William P."],"prevCode":"422-030","nextCode":"422-032","transcript":[{"start":0.3,"end":26.7,"text":"So I had a recommendation here."},{"start":26.72,"end":27.14,"text":"I just sent a letter."},{"start":27.16,"end":27.88,"text":"I don't know if you read the letter."},{"start":27.9,"end":29.22,"text":"It occurred to me that the letter was the better way to handle it."},{"start":29.24,"end":29.9,"text":"But I thought it was a good call."},{"start":30.59,"end":38.06,"text":"I just hesitate to call this call."},{"start":38.08,"end":39.34,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":50.19,"end":51.69,"text":"I don't mind it."},{"start":51.71,"end":56.49,"text":"What's your feeling about it?"},{"start":56.52,"end":57.74,"text":"Well, I think I just didn't kind of know."},{"start":57.88,"end":57.98,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":58,"end":58.22,"text":"All right."},{"start":58.44,"end":58.66,"text":"I'll do it."},{"start":58.7,"end":59.52,"text":"I've been looking for me tonight."},{"start":60.09,"end":62.05,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":71.44,"end":76.95,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":78.49,"end":80.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":81.47,"end":81.95,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":81.97,"end":82.07,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":83.37,"end":83.47,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":84.02,"end":84.22,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":84.84,"end":84.94,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":84.96,"end":85.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":85.2,"end":85.3,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":85.32,"end":85.42,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":85.44,"end":85.54,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":85.78,"end":85.88,"text":"Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Secretary of State William P. Rogers consult on the appropriate method for communicating a sensitive recommendation, debating whether a formal letter or a direct phone call is more suitable. Nixon expresses hesitation regarding the timing and nature of the call, ultimately seeking Rogers’s advice on the matter. Following their brief exchange, the President decides to proceed with the communication.","topics":["Diplomatic communication","Executive decision-making","William P. Rogers","White House correspondence"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:15:25.504Z"},"topicSlugs":["diplomatic-communication","executive-decision-making","william-p-rogers","white-house-correspondence"],"audioDurationSec":100,"audioFiles":[{"file":"422-031.mp3","bytes":598016,"durationSec":99.79,"bitrate":47943,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:37.628Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/422-031.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/422-031","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/422/conversation-422-031","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}