{"conversationCode":"424-008","tapeNumber":424,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-424-008","startDateTime":"1973-03-27T22:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-27T23:03:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Mar-1973","startTime":"5:56 PM","endDate":"27-Mar-1973","endTime":"6:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On March 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:03 pm. 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Ziegler and Henry A. Kissinger\n             -Cambodia         -Cease-fire agreement\n             -Press relations\n\n       Soviet Union-US visit\n            -Scheduling\n            -Arrangements\n                  -Problem\n            -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]\n\n       Vietnam settlement\n            -Irrational behavior\n            -Nguyen Van Thieu [?]\n            -Bombing [?]\n            -Cease-fire agreement\n                   -Cooperation of all parties\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["424-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"424-007","nextCode":"424-009","transcript":[{"start":0.17,"end":19.22,"text":"This is a further memorandum of the file being dictated on the afternoon of the 18th of September."},{"start":19.24,"end":20.04,"text":"Arch Gilkey is brought to Henry and Ron."},{"start":20.06,"end":21.82,"text":"The murder is brought to the completion of the special division and the central service."},{"start":21.84,"end":22.54,"text":"We want to get this out of the way."},{"start":22.56,"end":22.94,"text":"It's not a bug out."},{"start":22.96,"end":23.44,"text":"It's not out of the way."},{"start":23.46,"end":24.62,"text":"You've got to stand around there all the way to the right."},{"start":24.64,"end":25.03,"text":"You're responsible."},{"start":34.22,"end":47.49,"text":"I don't think it's a little bit depressing at all."},{"start":61.03,"end":66.08,"text":"I don't know what you're talking about."},{"start":101.65,"end":124.05,"text":"The problem for us, though, not as serious, is that, you know, it's an accident."},{"start":124.07,"end":125.15,"text":"And, you know, when I'm back here, I'm not used to it."},{"start":125.17,"end":125.55,"text":"I'm not used to it."},{"start":125.57,"end":125.95,"text":"I'm not used to it."},{"start":125.97,"end":126.35,"text":"I'm not used to it."},{"start":126.37,"end":126.75,"text":"I'm not used to it."},{"start":126.77,"end":127.15,"text":"I'm not used to it."},{"start":151.43,"end":154.54,"text":"The Russians are pretty set to revolt."},{"start":187.09,"end":214.67,"text":"... ... ... ..."},{"start":238.21,"end":248.85,"text":"Now, back to the first stage of the system, where we can see about three minutes."},{"start":248.87,"end":250.17,"text":"We're going to find that it's very important to be aware of that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictated a memorandum for the file to capture his thoughts on recent sensitive diplomatic and foreign policy matters. The recording addresses the status of the Vietnam cease-fire agreement, concerns regarding the actions of Nguyen Van Thieu, and the ongoing complexities surrounding the U.S.-Soviet Union relationship, including scheduling for upcoming visits and the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT). 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