{"conversationCode":"424-017","tapeNumber":424,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-424-017","startDateTime":"1973-03-29T14:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-29T14:06:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Mar-1973","startTime":"9:06 AM","endDate":"29-Mar-1973","endTime":"9:06 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 9:06 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 424-017 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 424-17\n\nDate: March 29, 1973\nTime: 9:06 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 44-65]\n\f                                             -18-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 424-32 (cont’d)","filename":["424-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"424-016","nextCode":"424-018","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":18.67,"text":"So, posting on that departure tomorrow, I would have to check to see whether I might be necessary to get out there that early."},{"start":18.69,"end":19.93,"text":"I would like to do, I've got a few things I'd like to do here."},{"start":19.95,"end":20.57,"text":"It takes until about 3 o'clock."},{"start":20.89,"end":34.24,"text":"So set it up, in other words, if you can."},{"start":34.67,"end":56.43,"text":"But the way this is possible is by allowing you to see the plane."},{"start":56.45,"end":57.47,"text":"There's nothing else that I can do to help on this."},{"start":57.49,"end":57.59,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":57.61,"end":58.35,"text":"Speaking of not thinking about power."},{"start":58.37,"end":58.47,"text":"Okay."},{"start":58.49,"end":59.35,"text":"Don't get frozen on what I'm talking about."},{"start":59.37,"end":59.83,"text":"Well, just work it out."},{"start":59.85,"end":60.35,"text":"It may happen either way."},{"start":60.37,"end":61.3,"text":"If you don't even work at it, you can't do it."},{"start":61.31,"end":61.59,"text":"I'm doing one."},{"start":61.62,"end":61.72,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":61.74,"end":62.66,"text":"If that thing is that, what do you make of it?"},{"start":63.75,"end":77.81,"text":"Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discuss the logistics and scheduling of an upcoming presidential departure. Nixon instructs Bull to arrange the travel details while balancing his preference to remain in the office to attend to several pending tasks. The conversation focuses on the flexibility of the itinerary and the necessity of coordinating transportation arrangements.","topics":["Presidential travel","Logistics","Scheduling","White House operations","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:18:54.261Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-travel","logistics","scheduling","white-house-operations","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":83,"audioFiles":[{"file":"424-017.mp3","bytes":544768,"durationSec":82.65,"bitrate":52727,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.376Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:37.975Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/424-017.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/424-017","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/424/conversation-424-017","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}