{"conversationCode":"424-025","tapeNumber":424,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-424-025","startDateTime":"1973-03-29T15:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-29T15:44:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Mar-1973","startTime":"10:43 AM","endDate":"29-Mar-1973","endTime":"10:44 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On March 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:43 am to 10:44 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 424-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 424-25\n\f                                                -23-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 424-32 (cont’d)\n\nDate: March 29, 1973\nTime: 10:43 am - 10:44 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 44-67]","filename":["424-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"424-024","nextCode":"424-026","transcript":[{"start":2.58,"end":13.47,"text":"Oh, everybody's talking."},{"start":13.49,"end":14.05,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14.07,"end":21.47,"text":"That little other talk doesn't work like that."},{"start":21.49,"end":21.63,"text":"No, no."},{"start":21.65,"end":21.97,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":21.99,"end":22.39,"text":"I'll just take that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met briefly to address operational concerns regarding the effectiveness of their ongoing communication channels. The participants briefly acknowledged technical or procedural difficulties with their current discussion methods. The meeting concluded with an agreement to shift or consolidate their exchange to more secure or functional arrangements.","topics":["Communication security","Procedural logistics","National security advisor","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:19:41.529Z"},"topicSlugs":["communication-security","procedural-logistics","national-security-advisor","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":22,"audioFiles":[{"file":"424-025.mp3","bytes":135168,"durationSec":22.35,"bitrate":48389,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.376Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:37.976Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/424-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/424-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/424/conversation-424-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}