Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 425-023
Date: Wednesday, March 28, 1973 at 4:20 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/425-023

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[0:00] I really don't think they're up to that level of support.
[0:11] They had their session.
[0:12] He recognized the problem.
[0:13] And it was not just the meeting that started, but the way the scenarios had been spelled out and other political questions.
[0:20] And he's going to have to figure it out.
[0:25] which appears to be having a very strict application of the privilege.
[0:40] So, he appears only to answer questions regarding his own participation in specific Watergate-related activities, and not discussing the law or anything else.
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[1:25] Let me say though,
[1:57] Thank you.
[2:14] I'm January 37th.
[2:36] uh it is prepared for the higher
[3:03] to say, well, there's a list of .
[3:28] It's not fair.
[3:29] It isn't fair to get attracted.
[3:29] It isn't fair for a critter to take a rap.
[3:30] But if they told you, told you to be gone, you know, so forth, you'd be able to get a critter around .
[3:32] You wouldn't even want to get .
[3:33] You wouldn't even .
[3:36] The idea is that we as a business can't get into this at all.
[3:58] I feel very strongly about this.
[3:59] I've heard of this common practice of these businesses.
[4:00] These guys' businesses have got to be abandoned.
[4:01] They're foolish, they have to try to do the wrong.
[4:02] They've got to serve some kind.
[4:03] It's an old-world life.
[4:03] Well, we ought to be able to forgive them.
[4:04] That's right.
[4:04] We ought to be able to forgive them.
[4:13] Possibility.
[4:39] Possibility.
[4:39] You have to deal with that.
[4:40] You can't have clouds around.
[4:40] That's another thing.
[4:41] The whole plan is this.
[4:43] He had no, he had no discrepancy.
[4:55] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[4:56] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[4:57] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[4:58] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[4:59] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:00] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:01] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:02] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:03] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:05] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:06] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:07] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:08] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:09] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:10] He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
[5:16] Thank you.
[5:17] Oh, I understand.
[5:41] Well, they had to evolve it.
[5:41] They told me to step up any way we can.
[5:42] They were suggesting a claim.
[5:43] He has to be a person on Saturday morning for New York.
[5:44] We will speak to New York Saturday night.
[5:45] We can get it Friday night.
[5:45] We could have it at 1, 2, or 3.
[5:46] The problem was to be late at 6.
[5:46] We missed it.
[5:48] Come down from the right.
[6:02] No concussing.
[6:03] All right.
[6:03] Suggestive.
[6:03] Since you can't do Chelsea Andrews in any way, do the other step.
[6:04] Is that what you need?
[6:05] To stay at the front?
[6:05] Well, why don't you come down?
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[6:37] Also, by the way, Sam, they've got to get the staff who's the person who wants to be helpful and bring Dennis back in and see if we can work out a reason for him to do it.
[6:56] Even though they're right now in the general sense of the word, they're trying to do it there.
[6:58] I mean, I've watched that.
[6:59] I mean, that's what I think.
[6:59] I'm going to call.
[7:00] I'm going to put it on purpose.
[7:00] I'm going to put it on purpose.
[7:01] I'm going to put it on purpose.
[7:05] It's working, huh?
[7:31] You're having the taxes checked and everything?
[7:32] Yeah.
[7:32] You're thinking about all sorts of spreading things?
[7:38] I wonder if somebody should talk to Howard.
[7:56] I always talk to him about this.
[8:02] They've been told more that he feels he can't because the legals are gone.
[8:07] Well, because it would look bad, he said, both you and I in partnership may be caught with questioning the investigation itself.
[8:16] He's probably right.
[8:17] He said, I don't think we want to be in a position where we're staying out in front of the sales.
[8:21] But at least he can say, hey, I have no problem with telling the attorney general about what he asked you to do.
[8:35] I'm trying to move out of the way.
[8:57] They're far away.
[8:57] We can't figure this out.
[8:58] We've got to get out of there.
[8:58] We've got to get out of there.
[8:59] We've got to get out of there.
[9:00] We've got to get out of there.
[9:05] You don't have to, but you can.
[9:25] It's counterproductive.
[9:25] Do you have any thoughts on how our economy is going to get back to my field?
[9:28] He said, the captain doesn't need a first, right?
[9:37] He says, it wouldn't be wise to try to do that because you can't tell everything.
[9:49] And that's the thing anybody says is, well, why don't you just put it all out?
[9:51] And that's it.
[9:51] Well, at least you can tell them.
[9:52] You know, they don't know what I've been saying.
[9:54] I said, what can we do?
[9:54] It's the very simple thing.
[9:55] They don't know.
[9:55] They don't know.
[9:56] They don't know.
[9:58] We have cooperatives.
[10:04] We are willing to cooperate.
[10:08] We will have et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[10:13] And that investigation was made in the White House by the president.
[10:18] Nobody in the White House staff has passed three tests to prove it.
[10:20] None.
[10:20] That's the staff that's been made.
[10:21] But these guys, they're like, yeah, I don't understand a question like that, but they don't believe it.
[10:23] You see?
[10:23] And actually, we said it.
[10:25] Then what do they suggest that I say?
[10:28] They're suggesting that you appear.
[10:32] The thing is, what I'm trying to get at is, political types of opponents want us to appear.
[10:41] Our proponents simply want us to say what did happen.
[10:44] They don't believe that what's out there now is the whole story of what it is.
[10:49] No.
[10:50] It is almost, but it's pretty close to being it, if you know what I mean.
[11:02] It is a great goddamn collection of things where I'm living, you know.
[11:09] It's about very believable that Mahmood earned a lot.
[11:10] Yeah.
[11:10] And that's the charge of this man.
[11:12] He says he did.
[11:12] Now it's hard, it's harder to believe he did than to believe he did.
[11:15] He isn't in the White House, but he's still, why is he being covered up?
[11:25] If he knew about it, why didn't he say he knew about it?
[11:29] Why didn't he let it go like that?
[11:37] That's right.
[11:38] I heard there was no backup today.
[11:40] I can see that.
[11:40] Well, he already had it.
[11:41] That's right.
[11:41] That's right.
[11:42] Scurrying.
[11:42] Lidious.
[11:42] Scurrier.
[11:42] Screwing.
[11:42] I've heard of those people.
[11:46] Whatever the plant was, it was rejected.
[12:11] It was just carried out.
[12:11] It was an original plant that I knew of.
[12:17] They've said it wasn't censored by the president.
[12:39] They've said it wasn't censored by the president.
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[13:20] All right.
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[14:25] Well, better luck then.
[14:28] Better health.