{"conversationCode":"425-025","tapeNumber":425,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-425-025","startDateTime":"1973-03-29T00:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-29T00:56:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Mar-1973","startTime":"7:55 PM","endDate":"28-Mar-1973","endTime":"7:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On March 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:55 pm to 7:56 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 425-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 425-25\n\nDate: March 28, 1973\nTime: Between 7:55 pm and 7:56 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n[See also Conversation 44-60]\n\f                                             -17-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 425-27 (cont’d)","filename":["425-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"425-024","nextCode":"425-026","transcript":[{"start":0.22,"end":28.43,"text":"So I was wondering how we were coming on ."},{"start":28.45,"end":28.67,"text":"Well, sure."},{"start":28.69,"end":29.97,"text":"I think they know that I don't want to mess with them right now."},{"start":31.2,"end":38.91,"text":"That will be the line I may have to make it to, but that's what I'm asking for."},{"start":38.93,"end":40.1,"text":"All right."},{"start":40.12,"end":40.2,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman held an extremely brief exchange to discuss the management of ongoing inquiries, likely related to the burgeoning Watergate scandal. The conversation centers on maintaining a strategic distance from external parties, with Nixon emphasizing his desire to avoid direct confrontation or engagement with them at that moment. Ehrlichman affirms this approach, confirming that he will adhere to the President's preferred line of conduct.","topics":["Watergate","Executive strategy","Political management","John Ehrlichman"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:23:22.642Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","executive-strategy","political-management","john-ehrlichman"],"audioDurationSec":45,"audioFiles":[{"file":"425-025.mp3","bytes":245760,"durationSec":45.01,"bitrate":43677,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.739Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:38.164Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/425-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/425-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/425/conversation-425-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}