{"conversationCode":"425-033","tapeNumber":425,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-425-033","startDateTime":"1973-04-09T17:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-09T17:13:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Apr-1973","startTime":"12:11 PM","endDate":"9-Apr-1973","endTime":"12:13 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:11 pm to 12:13 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 425-033 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 425-33\n\nDate: April 9, 1973\nTime: 12:11 - 12:13 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n       Return telephone call\n            -Timing\n\nThe President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 12:11 pm and 12:13 pm.\n\n[See also Conversation 44-109; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation.]","filename":["425-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"425-032","nextCode":"425-034","transcript":[{"start":0.32,"end":23.45,"text":"I think if you could maybe call around the return the call again, because I will probably tie it up and I'll try it around 3, 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock."},{"start":23.7,"end":24.02,"text":"Fine, thank you."},{"start":24.04,"end":25.72,"text":"Just be sure you try to call."},{"start":26.51,"end":46.59,"text":"Hello."},{"start":46.61,"end":47.73,"text":"Hi Julie, how are you?"},{"start":47.76,"end":49.8,"text":"I wanted to know that I've, uh, I, I've got the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,"},{"start":52.85,"end":75.72,"text":"This is something we're just going to decide what to do with, and we'll go one way or the other."},{"start":75.74,"end":78.4,"text":"And I know, I'm sure, and I know you guys do, but I want to catch the water with these guys, George and Larry Bush, and check it out."},{"start":78.42,"end":79.62,"text":"We're going to do that until we're finally good in one time."},{"start":79.64,"end":79.84,"text":"We'll see."},{"start":79.86,"end":80.62,"text":"We're going to check this company out."},{"start":80.64,"end":81.37,"text":"We're going to do that all the time."},{"start":81.39,"end":82.07,"text":"We're going to check the coverage."},{"start":82.09,"end":82.59,"text":"We're going to stay good."},{"start":92.42,"end":102.34,"text":"I'd like to have to stay over here tonight."},{"start":102.36,"end":102.88,"text":"All right."},{"start":103.36,"end":103.66,"text":"Bye."},{"start":103.82,"end":104.62,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to manage the scheduling of a return telephone call before speaking briefly with his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower. During the call, Nixon alluded to pending decisions regarding unspecified individuals, specifically mentioning plans to coordinate with George and Larry Bush to assess the situation. The brief exchange focused on maintaining discretion and oversight as the President prepared to navigate these developing circumstances.","topics":["Scheduling","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","George Bush","Larry Bush","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:24:09.581Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","julie-nixon-eisenhower","george-bush","larry-bush","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":109,"audioFiles":[{"file":"425-033.mp3","bytes":622592,"durationSec":109.4,"bitrate":45527,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.376Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:38.165Z","transcriptGapSeconds":43,"transcriptGapShare":0.39,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/425-033.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/425-033","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/425/conversation-425-033","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}