{"conversationCode":"425-038","tapeNumber":425,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-425-038","startDateTime":"1973-04-09T18:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-09T18:25:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Apr-1973","startTime":"1:24 PM","endDate":"9-Apr-1973","endTime":"1:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:24 pm to 1:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 425-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 425-38\n\nDate: April 9, 1973\nTime: 1:24 pm - 1:25 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 44-111]","filename":["425-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"425-037","nextCode":"425-039","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":22.36,"text":"So, Steve, I have a barber at 430, I think."},{"start":22.38,"end":22.92,"text":"I'll come over and do that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his late-afternoon schedule. The brief discussion served to confirm the timing of the President's upcoming haircut appointment. Bull acknowledged the request and committed to facilitating the logistics for the session.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Stephen B. Bull","Logistics","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:24:37.094Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","stephen-b-bull","logistics","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":32,"audioFiles":[{"file":"425-038.mp3","bytes":180224,"durationSec":31.55,"bitrate":45703,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:47.376Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/425-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/425-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/425/conversation-425-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}