{"conversationCode":"427-005","tapeNumber":427,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-427-005","startDateTime":"1973-04-16T20:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-16T20:26:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1973","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1973","endTime":"3:26 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:25 pm to 3:26 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 427-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 427-5\nDate: April 16, 1973\nTime: 3:25 pm - 3:26 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 38-67]\n\f                                               -19-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["427-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"427-004","nextCode":"427-006","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":3.65,"text":"Now, have you made any progress on that thing?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief, cryptic discussion concerning the status of an ongoing, unspecified project or inquiry. The President sought an update on the progress of “that thing,” suggesting an urgent but undisclosed internal matter requiring Ziegler’s attention. No specific resolution or definitive action items were articulated during the one-minute exchange.","topics":["White House administration","internal communications","Watergate-era logistics","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:31:52.621Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","internal-communications","watergate-era-logistics","ziegler-ronald-l"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"427-005.mp3","bytes":344064,"durationSec":10.61,"bitrate":259344,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.104Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:38.565Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/427-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/427-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/427/conversation-427-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}