{"conversationCode":"429-012","tapeNumber":429,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-429-012","startDateTime":"1973-04-19T19:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-19T19:08:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1973","startTime":"2:05 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:05 pm to 2:08 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 429-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 429-012\n\nDate: April 19, 1973\nTime: 2:05 pm - 2:08 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See Conversation No. 038-114]","filename":["429-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"429-011","nextCode":"429-013","transcript":[{"start":5.5,"end":30.63,"text":"They're gonna stop me from having this conversation."},{"start":33.8,"end":54.36,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":54.38,"end":54.64,"text":"I don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met briefly in the Old Executive Office Building to discuss concerns regarding the security and integrity of their private communications. The President expressed immediate apprehension about potential surveillance or interference with his ability to hold confidential conversations. No substantive policy decisions were reached during this short interaction, which focused primarily on the vulnerability of the taping environment.","topics":["White House Tapes","Surveillance","Presidential Privacy","National Security","Executive Office Building"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:37:43.755Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tapes","surveillance","presidential-privacy","national-security","executive-office-building"],"audioDurationSec":62,"audioFiles":[{"file":"429-012.mp3","bytes":1974272,"durationSec":61.59,"bitrate":256454,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.104Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:38.926Z","transcriptGapSeconds":46,"transcriptGapShare":0.74,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/429-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/429-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/429/conversation-429-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}