{"conversationCode":"429-016","tapeNumber":429,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-429-016","startDateTime":"1973-04-19T22:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-19T22:10:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:01 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:10 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 429-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 429-016\n\nDate: April 19, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:01 pm and 5:10 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Action paper\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman between 5:03 pm and 5:04 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 429-016A].\n\n[See Conversation No. 038-117]\n\n       Paper for President's signature\n\n       President's schedule\n              -Sequoia\n              -William P. Rogers, John C. Stennis\n\nBull left at 5:04 pm.","filename":["429-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"429-015","nextCode":"429-017","transcript":[{"start":0.22,"end":25.52,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":25.54,"end":26.18,"text":"Johnny, about a 10-minute break?"},{"start":26.2,"end":26.46,"text":"You got time?"},{"start":26.48,"end":26.58,"text":"Fine."},{"start":26.6,"end":26.86,"text":"Are you home?"},{"start":26.88,"end":27.08,"text":"All right."},{"start":27.1,"end":27.2,"text":"Fine."},{"start":27.22,"end":27.32,"text":"Fine."},{"start":27.34,"end":27.44,"text":"Okay."},{"start":27.46,"end":27.56,"text":"Good."},{"start":27.58,"end":27.78,"text":"All right."},{"start":27.8,"end":28.06,"text":"Take it down."},{"start":34.98,"end":60.75,"text":"It requires us to sit in church and we want to get the fire open and get the energy from the church."},{"start":60.77,"end":61.61,"text":"We want to get the energy from the church."},{"start":61.63,"end":62.47,"text":"We want to get the energy from the church."},{"start":62.49,"end":63.33,"text":"We want to get the energy from the church."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, John Ehrlichman, and Stephen Bull meet briefly in the Old Executive Office Building to coordinate a private session. The participants discuss the need for a short break and reference symbolic or metaphorical language regarding seeking energy from a church setting. The meeting serves primarily as a logistical pause in their broader discussions during the height of the Watergate-era legal pressures.","topics":["White House logistics","John Ehrlichman","Watergate-era meetings","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:38:07.207Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-logistics","john-ehrlichman","watergate-era-meetings","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":68,"audioFiles":[{"file":"429-016.mp3","bytes":2187264,"durationSec":68.21,"bitrate":256520,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.104Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:38.927Z","transcriptGapSeconds":51,"transcriptGapShare":0.75,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/429-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/429-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/429/conversation-429-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}