Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 430-001
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 1973 at 10:51 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/430-001

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[0:05] Bob did talk to Connolly.
[0:14] Yeah.
[0:14] Go ahead.
[0:17] And had about 45 minutes of conversation with him, apparently.
[0:24] And Connolly, in this conversation with Bob, indicated that it was not inevitable that he'd leave, and applied a caveat.
[0:46] This represents you to the president.
[0:58] The state said, no, you absolutely did not.
[1:04] He said, but the point of it is that if the facts, which I don't know, suggest that they will be implicated, then my position stands.
[1:09] But he said, that is something I can't do.
[1:11] So John, so Bob took comfort with that.
[1:12] Bob said, well, he's not going to be implicated.
[1:13] That's correct.
[1:14] In any case.
[1:15] That is the position that you should be aware of when you raise the kind.
[1:24] This is a, so he didn't give it to him horribly.
[1:28] Conley said, John, I did what you said.
[1:30] I gave it to him with a bark off, but I gave it to him on a position that if they are implicated or it's assumed that they will be.
[1:38] Bob's position, of course, and I have to believe him, and I assume that's what you want to discuss, is that they are not.
[1:45] If that's the case, well, then the whole premise falls apart.
[2:03] I also think you have the level of education, legally, which I'm discussing with the lawyers, which you've got the level of education.
[2:11] And publicly.
[2:11] That's the thing.
[2:11] Harold and all the rest are talking about it.
[2:13] They don't make any sense.
[2:13] I'll say it on the back.
[2:14] And perhaps they're giving some instigators.
[2:30] I just don't know.
[2:31] If what I've given you is fair, but I've given it to you straight, then it could be on the basis of .
[2:36] Now Bob and John, of course, are going to take the view, I'm quite sure.
[2:39] But they're not going to take the view.
[2:39] The entire house has to go through it.
[2:41] Like, who else?
[2:55] You know, I don't know who else, but on and on and on.
[3:02] So, yeah, I don't know who else.
[3:02] I think it's secondary to Michelle, and that's my point.
[3:04] There's everyone in here who's involved in the discussions and so forth, and I'm sure there's a lot of people in the situation that wouldn't find out about it.
[3:07] I mean, you know, for example, as the investigation proceeded, even more early than when he was proceeding with his work,
[3:10] What do you mean?
[3:20] The cover-up?
[3:22] No, not the cover-up.
[3:24] The finding out about the vaccine.
[3:27] Oh, well, I bet you didn't want to have, of course, everybody on the whole timeline.
[3:31] Okay.
[3:31] Well, I'm not worried about that.
[3:31] We released the...
[3:32] I'm going to start reading every day.
[3:34] You're done?
[3:34] Yeah.
[3:34] And so that would be my guess on that.
[3:35] Sure, it'd be a hard idea.
[3:36] The President had no knowledge of that.
[3:48] The President did not belong in the sector, nor by anybody in the sector.
[3:51] Of course, he followed the press and so forth.
[3:55] Why did the President, did the President conduct an investigation on it?
[3:57] Of course, he was interested in this problem, and he was leading the responsibility for the investigation on other people.
[4:02] You know what I mean?
[4:02] Members of the staff, he was representing the other members on the 21st,
[4:05] personally is so responsible.
[4:22] It doesn't mean he didn't use other people, but he was very member of the staff that he personally was so responsible for.
[4:27] So that worked a lot.
[4:27] I think maybe, I think perhaps I'm going to take the charge of the question.
[4:32] The president originally said at some point
[4:34] We will be in a position to respond to your questions.
[4:45] Yeah.
[4:45] But I want you to know that that name of the president is very much involved in this since he said on April 17th in terms of the investigation.
[4:51] And as a result, there's information that he came to his attention on March 24th at the bridge off of that dragon position.
[4:58] All right.
[4:58] Information.
[4:58] All right.
[4:58] Now, before we begin, I'm going to try to get you.