{"conversationCode":"430-025","tapeNumber":430,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-430-025","startDateTime":"1973-04-25T23:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-25T23:50:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1973","startTime":"6:46 PM","endDate":"25-Apr-1973","endTime":"6:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:46 pm to 6:50 pm. 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Dunlop\n                      -Economic Stabilization Act\n                              -Phase III\n              -White House secretaries reception\n                      -Invitations\n              -National Association of Businessmen [NAB] [?]\n              -Otto E. Passman\n                      -Vetoes\n\nThe President talked to an unknown person at an unknown time after 6:46 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 430-025A]\n\n[Begin telephone conversation]\n\n       Request for John D. Ehrlichman\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n[End telephone conversation]\n\n       Ehrlichman\n              -Bull\n              -Departure with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\nBull left at 6:50 pm.","filename":["430-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"430-024","nextCode":"430-026","transcript":[{"start":17.06,"end":42.12,"text":"He has a taping at 11 o'clock, so if anybody has a problem with it, they're welcome to call me."},{"start":42.13,"end":42.5,"text":"I have 30 minutes."},{"start":42.52,"end":43.52,"text":"And Mr. Ritchie is testifying for a bill on money."},{"start":43.54,"end":44.28,"text":"There's a lot to be prepared on that."},{"start":44.3,"end":45.42,"text":"Schultz is also suggesting that Troy can be on Saturday."},{"start":45.44,"end":46.02,"text":"Not a wise or a good sheriff."},{"start":46.04,"end":46.54,"text":"And he wants to come out."},{"start":47.23,"end":72.58,"text":"I'm here."},{"start":72.6,"end":72.8,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":72.82,"end":73.02,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":73.04,"end":73.24,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":73.26,"end":73.46,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":73.48,"end":73.66,"text":"Secondary"},{"start":81.2,"end":106.88,"text":"I prefer a cohesion that depends on the opportunity to go to the meeting again."},{"start":106.9,"end":107.1,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":107.12,"end":110.67,"text":"The reception of the State 90, this would be, you know, a vehicle that would be able to go to the ground center with losses, and staff assistance, assistance from the President."},{"start":159.2,"end":175.15,"text":"We're doing a stroke session in Colorado Passport, and then we're going to do an OESO session in Passport, Florida, and then we're going to do an RSA in Chicago."},{"start":175.17,"end":176.77,"text":"And we're going to do this on an August trip, and then we'll be back on the way."},{"start":176.79,"end":178.03,"text":"We're already on Station 1 on Tuesday, and then we'll see you."},{"start":197.69,"end":203.75,"text":"No, thanks."},{"start":203.77,"end":204.03,"text":"No, I'm fine."},{"start":204.05,"end":204.89,"text":"I really want to check in with the person."},{"start":204.91,"end":205.34,"text":"No, they ain't alone."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his upcoming schedule and handle administrative logistics. They reviewed plans for meetings regarding tax policy and economic stabilization with officials such as George P. Shultz and John T. Dunlop. Additionally, the pair discussed preparations for various events, including a reception for White House secretaries and legislative concerns involving Otto E. Passman.","topics":["White House Scheduling","Economic Policy","George P. Shultz","John D. 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