{"conversationCode":"430-038","tapeNumber":430,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-430-038","startDateTime":"1973-04-26T00:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-26T01:20:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1973","startTime":"7:53 PM","endDate":"25-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 430-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 430-038\n\nDate: April 25, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 038-158]\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542","filename":["430-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"430-037","nextCode":"430-039","transcript":[{"start":10,"end":10.58,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to facilitate an outgoing telecommunication. The interaction served as a routine administrative bridge to connect the President to another party. No substantive policy discussions or significant political decisions occurred during this brief exchange.","topics":["White House operations","Presidential communication","Telecommunications","Administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T19:43:01.656Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operations","presidential-communication","telecommunications","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"430-038.mp3","bytes":495616,"durationSec":15.36,"bitrate":258133,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.105Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:39.111Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/430-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/430-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/430/conversation-430-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}