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This has been a terribly bitter thing for Bob.

And even more for John.

Sure.

John is, John is a fighter, and I think he killed us.

And frankly, he's not aware of this.

You know, I'm not sure he's as prominent as I am, and I don't even know if we are wise.

I mean, he was there, and I don't even know what actually happened on this, on this facility.

Ellsworth and Cracky's about to be on that fucking thing.

Sure as hell.

But, you know, why, after that was done, did Hunt stay around?

Well, that's what I was trying to say, General.

You know, very directly, when I called the helicopter, I said, no.

The problem with the National Security Committee is that you're a team that you've recognized.

Yeah.

They went over there, and they again repeated what you've recognized as wrong.

And the Western Committee...

Yeah, it was, it was, you know, and, uh, they had a terrible relationship, and all that.

That's the way they shouldn't say it was national security.

You just said that we recommended that to them.

How did they get to the meeting?

Well, you just gotta live with that.

But, well, that's, I, I made a note of the process.

That is part of the, how the process got out of hand.

The point that you were making earlier,

In terms of world attention, yeah.

John probably thought these crazy doctors, get them out of here.

Lower the white house.

A lot of them want to get rid of it.

But anyway, that's what I say.

And I'll probably come up against them again tomorrow.

And, you know, Ron is an interesting thing.

They talk to his lawyers.

And their lawyers are still trying to advise them both legally and right.

Their lawyers think this is going to hurt their case.

The resignation, they say, would probably tip the balance.

and result in everything.

That, I've got to consider.

I've got to consider.

All right.

This is not their bed, but they say, whether they're ordering it or not, I said, what do they want to do, just wait it out?

Well, I can't wait it out.

I can't.

Do you have any doubts on that score?

I told Bob, and I said, Bob, I can't do it.

I can't wait it out.

He said, we don't want to do anything like this.

And I said, I know, but what are you going to do?

Are they being madder?

than he is.

He's a mad dog now.

Do you agree?

Yes, sir.

And I think their idea that we don't want to be, you know, that they don't want to be a team, I don't think the public is going to give a shit about the idea of linking them with these guys who are going to be treated separately.

You know what I mean?

I mean, separately in the sense of their own trials, at least.

You know, their idea of having deemed that they are going to be impacted is for sure as hell.

Excuse me, go ahead.

Well, the manager of the presidency, if something does not take place, and I sense it, I would let the press know, because I hate the local sense.

When men, you know, the press, with their eyes and gaze, were pressing local sense, and all of them, and earlier, all of them went through one of his tirades, and there it was, you know.

What is your view about that?

You know, that type of thing.

I mean, have a look at it on your own.

It's a public opinion question.

But also, if the presidency does not move here in some way, then more and more effort will be made.

It depends on the president.

I'm trying to say the presidency... Well, of course, Bob and John's argument is that their moving is going to depend on me more.

No one I've talked to has talked extensively

Which is what that is.

We know that the efforts were made.

We know that this is not going to solve the problem.

We know that people are going to continue to make charges.

But the only way for you to be able to deny those charges is to say, I got rid of them.

Is for it not to appear that you are attempting to cover up and defend them.

Now, they have moved themselves.

The point is, people always move a little, and they want to wait until the end of this next week, and I think you can tell us.

And of course, they said, well, of course, they always take comfort out of little things.

Well, it was all right.

We're ready.

Of course, it was all right.

We're ready.

What the hell do you mean?

We're ready.

Well, a massive one for her fucking car is taking steps to boil it down and to give the president a good sound position and posture to rest himself on.

Yes, we'd like, yes we'd like.

Here goes the money.

Well, anyway.

Sun's out, that's right.

Ray's got to also appreciate the man acting on this thing.

He's not quite as good a man as he would be.

He says, the hell with them, they gotta be a better, but listen, let me put it this way, they don't see it that way, you see, neither Bob or John, they'll step up and do it, and Ray won't wait, Ray wrote him a letter, told him, Bob, Bob just says, oh, look, I wasn't the subject, well, this is one of the times Ray, right, what Bob should have done a week ago, he's alive, Bob should have, or Bob should have,

Yeah, I know how to say that in speech.

I'm not going to say any of these things in my speech about all of this and so forth.

I'm just going to say I have taken the lead in this whole part.

The business of the government will go ahead, and I am going to serve as my own chief of staff.

I think that would be a good thing to say.

For example, this is the biggest thing I need.

I want to get...

That, uh,

And then also the figures about how many people the FBI had interviewed.

You know, that's the right thing to do.

So I want to know what this investigation is.

I ordered the cooperation.

You see, the way I would do it is to sort of do it in a narrative way rather than coming off like Price and demoting and crapping.

I would say, tonight I want to speak to a subject which weighs heavily on the heart of the country.

I was shocked by this senseless, illegal action.

I ordered immediate investigation in all areas.

The Department of Justice

committee within the White House, John Dean, the White House Counselor, was given the responsibility of interviewing members of the White House.

I ordered total cooperation as a result of those investigations, you know, so many interviews.

And then, since that time,

I asked for both solutions.

I indicated that I was assured, not by me, I would say, I was assured by those in my encumbrance that no one on the White House staff was one of those conducting the investigation.

No one, I can say that, no one of those conducting the investigation.

No one on the White House staff was one of them.

And based on that, on August 1st, I so stated.

Then, now,

Additional facts came to mind, didn't you?

And to the credit of the press, at least on that, the press helped to get some of those facts.

Let's throw that in there.

The investigation indicated that people higher up were involved, and there were charges, very serious charges, on cover.

That is why at Armstrong University I evaluated this.

Let me do, make, I decided that I would have to make an independent benefit issue.

At Armstrong University.

Now, Grand Jury Church, I've ordered everybody to leave.

I've ordered no, no stonework, no matter who it is.

uh, top members of the White House staff, uh, who have been named, have been, uh, have taken leave, uh, given leaves of absence to the top members.

You know, I'll say it more strongly than I can, in this, in the letter, let their letters be very lucid, but I can say, I have, uh, I have, uh, I have, I have, uh,

And I have accepted the use of that as always.

I was in the White House back when the women charged me, even though, you know what I mean, recognizing that nobody should have killed two of them or something like that.

And now, and I have made it clear that this week will continue.

not only until they are cleared from a strictly legal standpoint, but also from the standpoint of that higher standard, so that there is no violation.

The standard must be above the law.

Now, the question is, who is responsible for this parking service?

It would be easier to blame the campaign, the people of the campaign, and get on with it, so I don't say that.

to elect members of the White House staff.

The responsibility for this entire government of two billion employees rests only in one place, the President of the United States.

I accept my responsibility.

I, in this instance, I was too busy being President to write the running campaign.

And that was two years that I came.

As a result, uh, as a result, uh, I, uh, picked out some fine men, and he heard me.

The important thing is that the presidency must come first.

I ask you not to, not to judge the actions of any of those.

My presidency, and I went through everything that I can to claim this office.

I don't think that we've got to move forward, being the prospect of the best in the world, you know, in our economy and all that sort of thing.

But in order to do that, this can be a great period in the dissension that this country has more integrity, and that must start right here in the White House.

I pledge that I am, that's why I am personally devoted my time, not only to the affairs of the state and the board, but personally to the state and getting to the bottom of this, and everybody who in any way, in any way, engaged any improper action

will be immediately removed from government service.

And I want the hopes of peace in the world are here.

And this office, that's the kind of thing I'd give them, something like that.

How does that sound to you?

Very good.

And then the second point you made would be, that would tell me what your reaction is.

Can I have a second?

Now that the grand jury is active, I have accepted the resignation of all of these girls.

And even though they're in the wrong, I don't give a shit about it.

They've got to resign.

I mean, I've been here, told them that.

You know, they're going to be so pumped up that they're going to say, well, we feel bad about it.

We should resign, particularly if they're clear.

You see, it'll be decided easily.

If they're indicted, they're out.

They're out.

You've got to clear it there.

You don't have to say, now we'll get cleared here, but you leave your sign anyway.

You might find it because our usefulness has been destroyed.

So let's not face that fact until we come to it.

And I said, now that that's happened, then we go with the military general, we go with the move.

But you see, that's three weeks away, and that's the time to do this.

But we're not ready for that question.

I can't have a military general right in the middle of this goddamn thing.

I believe you have it.

I may not have an achievement step, I may just decide to do it myself.

I really didn't.

I don't know what that is.

Maybe use balance for some things, hard for some things, bold for some things, mute for some things, but I think I've got to work a little bit differently than I am.

None of that I did either.

I don't agree with that.

Perhaps we need a new system.

Also, as I said before,

The only way we are going to be able to do the things that should be done in terms of addressing those problems is to draw an end to the camp.

But tell me this, despite all their viciousness and so forth,

The press still wants the president to come out all right.

I mean, I, uh, except for Imbronski and a few others, how many of them have called for impeachment so far?

I heard on the Imbronski show they had.

They didn't call for impeachment.

They referred to, you know, the word impeachment.

Trash.

They had to impeach the president on John Dean.

You wonder what documentary stuff Dean's talking about.

He claims he's got some documentary stuff.

You know, it must be some goddamn evolution.

Fuckin' Colson.

What are you thinking about it?

You're John.

The president.

No, he doesn't.

No, I don't think he ever used the president's name.

Or did he?

Well, I'm right.

I trust him.

He used an awful lot of ground to put out the break.

Yeah.

I don't think that doesn't matter.

I guess not.

Joe and Dean, we used the presidency of the United States.

The president's counsel lied to us.

The president's counsel said it.

The president's counsel distorted something.

They're not going to make a charge against the president of the United States.

It sticks.

It's a... We didn't tell him to march when he merged.

That's right.

You're all going to run a decent report.

And then he was credit.

He came in.

There's a cancer in the heart of the lion.

Heart of the president.

Okay.

He said, I give you credit.

But he was really, then after that, when he went to Camp David, he decided he better save his own ass.

And I understand that, too.

But he did say that he had to admit an example to prove it.

But ultimately, this person, even after, even during that period, when we went out, or I went out on the 30th of March, I still had absolute total confidence in what he was expressing.

Now, I don't, I'll have to, he was misleading us.

I'll have to actually, I'll have to apologize and apologize.

Yeah, sure, I'll apologize.

I'll have to go out and leave it.

And I frankly think that it was incomplete.

It was something that was incomplete.

It was something that was inaccurate.

Apparently, deliberately false.

But I saw a little of heaven, and I did not discover it.

But since then, I'm getting at the bottom of that now.

See, this Hirsch thing that I said, turns out to be this god damnable attorney talking about security crap, you know.

Let's talk about that.

I'm kind of laughing, but it's, uh, we're not going to take any of those threats.

What the president didn't mean, other than watering his ship.

Well, if they, if they start working that after this, after the grandchildren, that would send that to me.

Like, there's, you know, building on his ship.

That type of charge has been made.

Nothing will be served in town to get into, check by check, whatever.

Run down to Dunn County Bank, buy a job as the Republican presidency.

I'm going to do it, and I'm not going to burden this White House with constant response and constant involvement in this.

We have, you know, you have ordered that we are moving ahead.

The states have been made.

They have been made.

I take responsibility for that.

We are moving ahead with this.

Yeah, as Nathan should say, it's very hard for anybody to just say that it would make a mistake.

And it's particularly hard for one who serves the President of the United States in this instance.

I frankly was so engraced I put in something there that I, this was the year I left the county.

This was the year I didn't make it.

This was the year we brought the war in.

This was the year I was so consumed with those problems that my staff with the best of intentions did not break the line I had intended.

Matters that I probably would therefore have gone in.

I do not say this is an excuse.

I do say all over again, I'm going to say it, but I've got to see if you're making me believe it, because I've got to believe it.

But not, man, we can't get up there like race and get what you want to do.

You've got to sack laws and actions and crime.

Or I'll tell you the truth.

At this point, what he says is that the president should say what he knows in general.

I said, you can't do it.

He said, well, no, but I know a lot about, well, about this case.

I said, I don't know what the crash is about.

I don't know yet.

I can't tell you.

And I've recognized the rights of half the government.

So let's see.

Some of the press apparently say, well, there's a lot to have around on the musky Sabbath time.

I said, where are you going?

I know about the musky Sabbath time.

Their president can't be aware of every little thing that a guy did here and a guy did there.

What he can do or other can't pay that kind of thing, sir.

What's the point of a lie about that?

Okay, well, I take another one for that.

What I'm saying is we should not sit in agony and fear that someone's going to come out with the thing that someone... About the canoe plan, right?

That kind of looks better.

What do you say about that?

Are there Jackson's comment about Muskie being a fairy or something?

Or tailing people or whatever.

Tailing people.

All right.

There's got to be that.

Or what's Sigrid doing and all the rest.

God damn it.

Then there's got to be a little bit of counterattack someday on that goddamn bombing and stuff.

Don't you think so?

I don't know.

Well, not by me.

But the main thing here is

I want you to do that.

Then in press conferences and other places, if some guy stands up and says, you can put him right here, I can say, Mr. Mulroney, I have accepted the responsibility for the things that happened to my administration.

Those matters have been addressed both in the court of law and the court of public opinion.

I am receiving the business of this country because I have the responsibility to do so.

I want you to express

See, I mean, it's beautiful.

American people would love it.

They'd like it.

In other words, leaders under attack.

You know, I think, I think, I think the people are going to like it.

I don't know if you're, excuse me, but I think one of the reasons that we're so enthusiastic is because of this, you agree or not?

I believe you.

I also believe Stennis is a visceral type guy.

I know.

And in his remarks, the way the president's standing, Tom, the president's stepping up against hard decisions and so forth, there was a little bit of a sense of, you know, you're going to pull this one out, too, type of thing.

And I don't think that's, that now that we'll have the problem, we can address the problems and so forth, but I think that they...

I would agree.

I don't want to overestimate this.

I would agree.

We'll, we'll at least make an effort to, uh, to, uh, see this evolve in the right way.

But they're not all, they're not all of a sudden, we're out of them.

I don't know.

We shouldn't expect that.

I don't know.

But they can't want, frankly, to see anyone be president.

That's right.

No, really.

I don't know.

You know, well, I don't think impeachment is a good government.

The point is that they've got to want this country to succeed.

The whole hopes of a whole goddamn world of peace, Rob, you know, where they rest, they rest right here in this damn chair.

They can't, well, they know this shit-ass thing.

They know goddamn well.

These guys, maybe the public, and these guys, you know, I didn't know a good ton, except the most vicious ones.

I mean, does Molotov think I knew all about this?

Maybe he does.

He thinks I do.

The president does.

No, he doesn't.

And he knows those people better tell me anything.

Yeah.

Well, I'm not going to be able to say for...

Well, anyway, they're responsible.

They're responsible.

Because, plus the fact that it's an additional and more than that, it's a fact.

It's a truth, no matter what.

It is a truth.

Absolutely.

I'm walking proof of the fact that it is the truth.

Yeah.

Because I have only been able to move through this thing by making sure my intent is right out.

It's all over the place.

Knowing what you think and knowing what you're

You know, I don't say a goddamn thing in these press conferences.

I know, but I don't want to cover anything up.

If I'd have thought anything else, I would have cut their guts out.

You know that, sure.

Plus the fact that I know all of those days

Jerry Warren called John Dean to give guidance on this material.

I'm misleading you.

You're wrong.

But Dean was banished.

You've got to give him credit.

We all said he did a hell of a good job, right?

Didn't we?

Yes.

But I guess his job... What happened to him?

He went.

You can't blame Dean.

The payments and the benefits and the rest.

I guess he thought that was his job, too, because there he got involved with Mitchum.

But that is, Mitchell is the guy that we're protecting.

Not the White House.

Ever.

Do you realize that?

Ever.

Christ my God, we couldn't do anything to the White House.

It was Mitchell.

Until this last little squib of the March 21st when he brings up this different bastard coming in and saying that Hunt's going to squeal on other things he did.

You know what I mean?

And that was not Mitchell.

That was our help.

Sure.

On that one, I agree with you, that's going to be very hard for John Dean.

Of course, he'll go out.

The scenario there, it worked out this way, if you're curious.

I mean, he said, first, O'Brien, the committee's lawyer, is scared.

He used to say, well, after the other, after Pittman came in and said he hadn't had money for Kennedy's piece and so forth, he spoke to him.

Dean could then say, yes, you were part of the president.

The president said, well, what the hell are you gonna do about this?

I'm practicing.

Thank God, all of us, I think, were part of the conversation.

And how could we tell Dean, go get the letter?

I said, because we said this is blackmail.

If anyone ever raised that at a press conference or whatever, that wasn't me.

I had said,

Aren't you aware of what the investigating techniques are?

Mr. Jones, that is exactly the time that I moved out of this home to get to the office.

And I did.

I went to an express visit to do it for me.

Well, I'm glad I heard.

I'm glad I heard.

I never expected to pay off a guy like that.

How are you going to convince him?

If you wanted to keep him shut down, I mean, how would you do it?

No way.

The other thing is that they raise questions about, about any of the international security type things.

Those can be moved aside based upon this question.

How do you move those aside?

Simply by saying, uh, at that point, it was told from the State Department of National Security that, uh, we had terrible circumstances.

Uh, we did.

In the process, it was a bad judgment.

I mean, on the brain end of the thing.

In the process, it was bad judgment.

That's right.

I don't condone the bad judgment.

I don't condone it, and it was reprimanded.

That's right.

Now, nothing is served by dwelling on this.

Nothing is served by being responsible to the massive questions on this subject.

Because what we are doing now is not what we did in the past.

We're going to have a rough time, but Ron, you've got to have confidence in the fact that we will survive.

If we don't survive, you know what's going to happen to this damn world.

Well, that's what the press is going to realize.

I've got whatever they may think of this whole miserable business.

You know, whatever they think of me, they've got to realize I'm the only one in the present time in this whole wide-glazed world who can do a goddamn thing.

You know, there's a deal that we're blowing up.

Now, that's what it gets down to, right?

Maybe they don't see it that way anymore.

You know, a lot of the times in the most run stories, the first of all, that they do, that's for the ship.

That'll build up the television thing Monday night.

And they won't.

Oh, I didn't know.

All right.

I think it's going to hurt me.

The only good one.

Let me say this, they do

I will fight the post to my dying day on this earth.

You understand that?

Because we'll get along with the others, but I'll fight those ambassadors until hell freezes over.

Let me say this, you know what I mean?

I understand.

I have not given up on the post.

But that is the day I look for.

It's the day...

They didn't have mentions, but witnesses at the time, I don't know.

They were the same.

They were in the first position.

They'll come.

Why is it that Bob never conceived your baby?

I cried, and I cried in his son, and I cried in his time, and I cried in other ways.

I think John taught him all kinds of things.

What's the price to have a baby?

Bob...

Bob usually has such good judgment.

What the hell happened?

I don't know.

He just thought it was wrong.

I think from the standpoint that we talked about this before, I think, I mean, Bob is so convinced that it's so good.

But he's wrong, right?

That he was right.

I'm not guilty.

But, uh, he simply... People have had a few less standpoints than him.

They're a little...

But he just ignores the public opinion.

Well, and the lost perspective of the presidency.

Not because he was thinking about himself.

But no, no, no, he always put it in the term, this is going to hurt you if I get out.

And earlier he said, this is going to hurt you if I get out.

And I gave him the argument and said, look, you fellows can't do your job.

Bob made the point to me today, he says, look, half of me is worth more than anybody else, and he's exactly right.

But that isn't the point.

happened in his damaged goods.

That's what he doesn't realize, you see.

His damaged goods.

Right.

You can't have damaged goods in the White House.

No way.

That's what neither of them has realized.

This is right.

Indivision, the establishment of the presidency, is the only way to go.

I agree with that.

Of course, what has brought, may have brought John around to an extent is this break in the beam, that horrible thing.

That shook the shit out of him.

I also think it's great that they had this black tower.

Quite a bit.

Because even the pool, they were photographing the TV news.

John and Bob, they played it.

Yeah, good reception.

But also, did they show it was a good reception?

Yes, sir.

Really?

Yes, sir.

But they also had film and pictures of Bob and Johnny getting all the money, and the press were running around photographing them.

Yeah.

Photographing Bob and Johnny.

And I think they've been doing this since then.

So if the whole press corps would have gone back, they wouldn't have been able to get out of town, would they?

I don't panic.

Well, you know, when the old son has said that, he doesn't panic.

Everybody cheers.

We're not panicking.

We're doing something cold and right here.

I don't have a problem with this genre.

Tomorrow I'm going to come and do it around.

I'm going to do it around.

What the hell is this?

But I think John has always been an advocate of what he said, let it all hang out there.

It's always the case.

The invention of self-discipline is very difficult to let it all hang out.

To let it all hang out, you need to get off this goddamn window and get on something else.

What did I realize?

Listen, get around the whole goddamn White House staff.

They better help the president.

Absolutely.

Just get out!

Get out.

And say, look, we just, we don't, none of us are willing to contact them, but we're, we're leaving all the senior people.

Get a new team, Mr. President.

That's our reason why it happened this time.

That's our reason why, isn't it, sir?

Huh?

It's okay.

I'm not referring to you.

No, no, no, no, no.

But I'm referring, you know, because I, you can't replace me.

But, God damn it, sir.

You see, you just do it.

You do it.

He made me a problem.

I don't know.

Make sense?

I don't know what it is.

I've long time to know that it's a story that someone keeps driving.

I've got to be goddamn sure there's nobody more than this.

No, but my father, John Peavy, that was in 17.

That was a defensive maneuver on that car.

Do you two agree?

It says a hell of a lot of people on that list were just people that had been exposed to this by whom the hell wasn't brought.

I was exposed to it.

I read the stories.

I heard about the charges.

I heard that money was being delivered to people with packages.

I read the papers.

Right.

Well, we're a little late.

Maybe not too late.

I don't think we're too late.

if I go Monday.

But I think Monday's better than waiting for Wednesday.

You see, I've got Ron and all the rest.

I want to go on Monday and get the goddamn thing.

Now look, I'm working this speech.

Ray is slow as molasses.

He's got to work his goddamn ass off all night tonight.

I know I love him, but I know he's slow.

And I've got to have something by tomorrow night.

Shall we say?

No, 8 o'clock.

8 o'clock.

I'm getting 7 o'clock.

I'm expecting my 8.

And that's when we start working.

And he'll come up.

And he should come up and try to, but not with any of us.

I don't want to go to these other areas where he can speak.

I'm up there alone, and I don't know if they're going to ask me where I am.

You said you're going camping tomorrow?

Yeah, I'm going up to Camp David to work for the weekend.

They'll say, would you go with?

Just go to the same level.

Work with the students.

I wonder if I should take Rose.

Take Rose is going to signify the kids without doing a little work.

Ray, come up.

And, but then suddenly when that comes in, Roche come up with it then, because of that, then on Sunday I gotta start to get the trash done.

I'll read this then.

I can't get it in my head.

You know, the real tragedy is that the two greatest guys have gone, all over the earth, you know.

Not every week.

Saturday.

Alright, but I want one more scotch and then I'm ready to eat.

Did you tell me again?

No, no, sir.

No, I'm sorry.

You're both being a pleasure.

I'm sorry.

You know, you've got a fight going on.

You've got a vicious son of a bitch like this lying and so forth.

There comes a time when the man is fighting right to the death.

I don't know.

He's got a lot of shit that he's going to pour out there.

I think your point, as I said, he's a discredited asshole.

The meeting I had with him in March when he burst when he didn't discuss with me

Oh, I'm sorry, Steve.

Now, we're, I guess, delayed the helicopter by 9.30.

9.35.

All right.

Can we go to these three cases, too?

I don't want any FYI's.

It's fine.

Okay.

He's doing crime.

Worse.

Take care of the affairs of the world.

I know.

They all care so much.

Good God.

Thank you.

You are.

This is

He said, I think it's a little late, but I couldn't force him.

He can't take the top bit.

But I could do a bit of forcing.

You think you could, but you never know.

When I say yes, I'm not saying I wouldn't.

I don't know that.

On the other hand,

It has to be worked up and they're going to fight it tomorrow like hell again.

I can hear it.

They're lawyers thinking we don't want to be in the same bed with Dean.

Ron, they have got to go for their own sakes.

Or you tell me what your judgment is.

They cannot take the fucking heat, can they?

I absolutely agree.

I agree.

I agree with you.

You told them that?

Well, when I talked to my phone, and I told Bob that beforehand, but two weeks ago, when I was telling him, Bob, the only way to win on this thing is to move and go to the high ground.

Go now.

And, uh, well, considering that, I disagree with it.

But the decision is made, and I think it's the right thing.

It makes me sure it's the right thing.

And I thought I was going to want to have that.

It's going to be referred to the two parties.

I do what?

Yeah.

That's it.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

You do this, you see, that's the beauty of it.

You cook now.

Just for me.

No, no, no, no.

He goes out and sees the girls.

Oh, cool.

Excuse me, excuse me.

Because if you went now,

broad scale.

We aren't ready.

In the end, also, it is the conviction of the public community.

It says that the president is shooing through the commission process.

This way, you move.

You're doing it in a way people always run for.

Now, Price never agreed with that.

Price would have bucked out of Vietnam the day I got in.

You know that.

Maybe, maybe I'm sorry I'm doing you a disservice.

I don't mean to crime you with a price limit, a price code, you know, or anything.

But my point then is this.

We have got this in mind.

We had your little statement, you know, for once and all.

That I made in August and denied by April 17th.

Now we're making another one.

Another one.

We're trying to contain the goddamn thing.

Because we got to remember this is a continuing battle.

Look, if we went in and sacked them off in actions and fired the whole White House staff, Christ doesn't realize that isn't going to satisfy these goddamn cannibals.

They'd still be after, who are they after?

Hell, they aren't after Holloman or Earl or Dean.

They're after me, the president.

They eat my guts.

That's what they're after.

You don't agree with me?

Well, I don't, I don't think, I think they want to pursue the rest of the scene.

I don't think they're going to do it.

My part is a relationship there.

My part is a rock.

At this point, just moving all out of an earlier date would not have solved the problem.

Now at this point, we've got to move on to other stages.

We've done one stage, now we did this stage.

And now, we have the opportunity now to get a chance to talk to people and be able to move on.

Well, sir, Carol, the FBI director.

At the time of the speech, I'm going to go out to the press.

This is happening.

Here's taking steps.

Here's the direction I'm going.

I might do that instead of going to the president.

He's out in the office.

You know, let all of them pop off so he does not, you know, scream and so forth.

You know, his colleagues must think he's certain of that.

Oh, they do.

They don't want to say that.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Your job is to tell Price.

I'm going to meet with him right now.

You're going to tell Buchanan.

You're going to tell Gray.

The president's already given my outline.

Right.

You come up to me, but for me, I want to make it strong.

Not, not crawling, not apologetic.

Just say, this is the fact.

I assume the responsibility.

Be a president and not a peon.

You told him that.

God damn it.

Price does not usually understand this.

Sometimes he does, but he thinks you've got to be in sacrifice.

I told him that.

I can do that.

God damn it.

Price is totally wrong.

You can't do that.

The president can't come before the country and say, look, I made a horrible mistake and please forgive me, my friend.

That's right.

You realize the president comes in and apologizes.

I'm very sorry.

Can't you just do that in the main piece?

I took responsibility and I asked for your support.

Well, okay.

Okay, sir.

Good.

Bye.

They better watch out.

I hope Gurdon

You're going to come.

Yes, sir.

You better watch his goddamn ass if you're going to keep this crap.

I mean, they're going to attack me.

They're going to attack me and the president's family.

They must not attack the president's family.

I just wanted to tell you.

Hershey, you can't talk to him.

Well, no.

The people that hit on that is Quentin Daniels, Scotty Rustin.

I mean, don't cry.

Scotty Rustin.

It's based upon some lawyer's speculation about the front of the United States.

You have an obligation as a major to speak for journalists and so forth.

Is that what you told Daniel or the rest of them, what you said?

No, I said, if it comes to the point of the times, that's what... Well, if they run.

I don't mind.

Let's build up the speech.

I don't have a hell of a heart either in that speech.

You know, the funny thing about them, this month is all that's right.

Out in the country...

is disparaging about the country, despite California.

It isn't that pervasive yet.

It is among the people we know.

Among the average man, among the current, among the goddamn politics, which are good people, try to make people still, am I right?

Yes, sir.

People trust the president.

They respect the president.

And the presidency at this moment, you see, is not involved in the presidency at this moment.

But it will become.

That's why I've got to strike it now.

In order to move, see, there's so much more involved in this.

There's the culmination of eight years of things that we've done.

And you're talking about it.

We're not involved in politics now.

No, the presidency's not involved in politics now.

The presidency's not involved in the battle to prove whether or not they were right or wrong in doing this or that.

The presidency right now is involved in this.

the end of the era of the greatest achievement in the generation of achieving peace.

I know.

And of concluding, actually, years in the spark of statesmanship and accomplishment, which you have already done last year.

That's the line, incidentally, that I think should be the great conclusion of this speech.

It says, I have often thought of the legacy I would like to leave.

Every president thinks of this.

The greatest...

And I will work for that until I die today.

Another is, you know, justice.

Justice, you know, is the character of the government and people are all people.

Progress, you know, and so forth.

But also, above everything else that you take with you, you must believe in the President.

You must not lose confidence in the White House.

There must be no whitewash in the White House.

And it's that that I have in my hand, and that's the reason

personal responsibility for this investigation, and personal responsibility for everything that has happened.

We will restrict that, and we will do everything necessary to, without any vestiges of this, and to restore, you know, respect for the children.

So, well, when a, someone's lost one of the presents, yeah, we should have one, two, one, okay.