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Start Date: 27-Apr-1973 8:22 PM

End Date: 27-Apr-1973 9:34 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Sanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

432-001.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:22 pm and 9:34 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 432-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 432-1

Date: April 27, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:22 am and 9:34 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler and Manolo Sanchez.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

       Watergate
             -Resignations of H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman
                    -Reactions of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                    -Public relations [PR] aspect
             -Ellsberg break-in
                    -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
                            -Ziegler’s conversation with Ehrlichman
                                    -National security arrangement
                    -Testimony before Ervin Committee
             -G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
                    -Ehrlichman
             -Resignations
                    -Opinions of Haldeman’s and Ehrlichman’s lawyers
                            -Increased chance of indictment
                    -Need for President to act
                            -Timing
                            -John W. Dean, III’s possible response
                    -Linkage of Haldeman, Ehrlichman, and Dean
             -William Ruckelshaus
             -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                    -Need for President to act

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.

       Watergate
                                             -2-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                    (rev. September-2011)

                                                               Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)

              -Haldeman and Ehrlichman           

                    -Timing of departures          

                           -Effect
                    -Public opinion
                    -President’s visit to Meridien, Mississippi on April 27, 1973

       Refreshments

       Watergate      

             -Haldeman and Ehrlichman      

                   -Raymond K. Price’s memo

             -Haldeman       

                   -Timing of resignation    


Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

              -White House Chief of Staff position
                     -Leonard Garment
              -President’s requests of Ehrlichman and Haldeman
                     -President’s requests for full disclosure
              -Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI] interviews
              -President’s forthcoming speech
                     -Price’s style
                     -President’s reaction to break-in
                     -President’s desires for full disclosure
                     -President’s investigation
                             -Dean’s role
                     -White House staff changes
                     -Allegations
                     -President’s investigation, March 21, 1973
                     -Grand jury actions
                             -Departure of staff members
                     -President’s responsibility
                     -Grand jury actions
                             -Response of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                     -Attorney General
                     -Chief of White House staff
                                               -3-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                        Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. September-2011)

                                                                Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)

                               -Frederic V. Malek, David Parker, Stephen B. Bull, Ziegler
                      -Press
                             -Relationship with President
                             -President’s relations with press
                                     -Impeachment, Dean
                                     -Martin Z. Agronsky’s show
                      -Dean’s documentary evidence
                             -Charles W. Colson’s memoranda
                                     -Use of President’s name
                      -Dean
                             -Actions
                             -March 21 meeting with President
                             -Report
                             -William O. Bittman
                             -Ziegler
                                     -Apology
                                              -Washington Post
                      -Seymour M. Hersh’s New York Times article
                             -President’s information
                      -Threats concerning President
                      -Ziegler’s possible statement to press
                      -President’s forthcoming speech
                             -Responsibility
                             -Concerns during Watergate period
                                     -1972 People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip, Vietnam War
                                     -Tone
                                     -Price’s view
                                              -Ziegler’s conversation with Price
                                              -President’s knowledge of campaign activities

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Refreshments
                                             -4-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. September-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)


[End segment under deed of gift]
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

       Watergate
             -President’s statement
                    -“Canuck” letter
                    -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s comments concerning Edmund S. Muskie
                    -Tailing
                    -Donald Segretti’s activities
             -Counterattack         

                    -Bombing           

                    -Columnists          

             -President’s possible response to Clark R. Mollenhoff
             -President’s visit to Meridien, Mississippi 

                    -Audience          

                    -John C. Stennis’s remarks           

             -Possible impeachment           

                    -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew 

                    -World peace           

                             -Responsibility of US presidents
                             -Mollenhoff
                             -President’s involvement
             -President’s knowledge
                    -Ziegler’s knowledge of President’s involvement
                    -President’s August 19, 1972 press conference in California
                    -President’s desire for full disclosure
             -Gerald L. Warren’s conversations with Dean
             -Dean         

                    -Involvement           

                    -Payments for defendants           

                    -John N. Mitchell          

                             -Jeb Stuart Magruder
                             -March 21, 1973 conversation with President and Haldeman
                               -5-

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                      (rev. September-2011)

                                                Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)

                      -Bittman
                      -Hunt’s testimony
                      -Ehrlichman
                      -Paul O’Brien
                      -President’s response
                             -Clemency
-Ellsberg break-in
       -President’s response
                -Invocation of national security
-President’s leadership
-New York Times, Washington Post stories
       -President’s forthcoming speech, April 30, 1973 

       -Effect of news articles         

       -President’s response         

-Haldeman
-Departures of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
       -Effects on President
       -Necessity
-Dean
       -Ehrlichman
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
       -Press coverage of Mississippi trip, April 27, 1973
       -Necessity for departure
       -Stennis remarks
       -Forthcoming meeting with President
                -Ehrlichman
                -Resignations
       -Mitchell
-White House staff
       -Benefit to the President of staff changes
                -Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger, William E. Timmons 

       -Possible resignations         

       -List from Haldeman and Ehrlichman 

       -Exposure of White House staff 

-President’s forthcoming speech
       -Timing
       -Price’s schedule
                                                  -6-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                           Tape Subject Log 

                                         (rev. September-2011)

                                                                 Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)

                      -President’s schedule
                             -Camp David
                             -Price
                             -Rose Mary Woods
              -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                      -Resignations
                      -Meeting with Ziegler
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 9:09 pm.

       Refreshments

       President’s schedule          

              -Helicopter        


Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

       Watergate
             -Dean
                      -White House response
                      -March 21, 1973 meeting with President
                             -Money for Hunt
                             -President’s reaction

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 8:22 p.m.

       President’s schedule     

              -Camp David trip             

                      -Material
              -Tricia Nixon Cox
              -Kissinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

       Dick Hillyer [?]

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.
                                             -7-


                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. September-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)

       Instructions

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

       Watergate
             -Chronology of containment efforts
             -President’s forthcoming meeting with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                    -Resignations
                            -Ziegler’s conversation with Haldeman

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:22 pm.

       Food

       Ziegler

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.

       Watergate        

             -Public opinion          

             -Comparison to foreign policy 

                     -Price’s view
                     -Garment’s view
             -Opponents’ goal
                     -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Dean
                     -President
             -Staff changes
                     -Attorney General, FBI Director
             -President’s upcoming speech         

                     -Format         

                     -Press relations       

                             -Clark R. Mollenhoff
                     -Ziegler’s forthcoming meeting with Price
                             -Patrick J. Buchanan
                             -Content of speech
                             -Garment
                     -John F. Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs Speech
                                                  -8-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                           Tape Subject Log 

                                         (rev. September-2011)

                                                                 Conversation No. 432-1 (cont’d)

                             -Responsibility
              -Forthcoming press stories         

                     -Robert U. (“Bob”) Woodward             

                     -David R. Gergen          

                             -Attacks on President
                             -Hersh
                             -Clifton V. Daniel
                             -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
              -President’s forthcoming speech
              -Public opinion         

                     -Watergate’s impact           

                     -Trust, respect in Presidency         

              -President’s forthcoming speech          

                     -Conclusion          

                     -Belief in Presidency           

                     -President’s responsibility         


Ronald L. Ziegler left at an unknown time before 9:34 pm.